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I don't track the models

Posted on: August 21, 2017 at 11:26:33 CT
meatiger MU
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I did not realize you were such an expert on this area. I think it has been way over-politicized and used as an agent to increase government regulations. But regardless, the evidence is pretty darn good out there. Do they have the precise proportions of exact causes...no they don't...has man factored into the changes...it most certainly has.

What should be done about it...I don't know...but to try to nullify the regulation argument by arguing that change (and pace of change) does not exist is foolish.

I would argue that the so-called effects of global warming (flooding, destruction) is caused more by humans trying to restrict things (i.e. putting dykes all around rivers) or where we build stuff (building on the edge of oceans, mountains known for floods, areas where forest fires are known, building next to a river).
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No solar eclipse today - paleojas MU - 8/21 10:32:52
     you just don't know science - FootballRefugee MU - 8/21 12:40:53
          RE: you just don't know science - paleojas MU - 8/21 14:04:21
     Good, progressive said the eclipse was racist yesterday. - RHAYWORTH MU - 8/21 12:06:30
     RE: No solar eclipse today - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:22:41
          Unfortunate that you think weather and climate are the same - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:25:12
               RE: Unfortunate that you think weather and climate are the same - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:28:00
                    Learn the difference - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:31:29
                         RE: Learn the difference - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:37:25
                              RE: Learn the difference - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:39:17
                                   RE: Learn the difference - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:41:06
                                        OK... let's follow the money on climate change research - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:44:18
                                             RE: OK... let's follow the money on climate change research - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:48:44
                                                  RE: OK... let's follow the money on climate change research - paleojas MU - 8/21 14:03:37
                                             No answer for this one, MOCO SON? - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:47:31
                                        RE: Learn the difference - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:41:49
                                             RE: Learn the difference - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:43:48
     From, say, the modeling done in 1990, which one was the - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 8/21 11:20:01
     And, there is an infinite amount of fish in the sea and - GA Tiger MU - 8/21 11:00:20
     Solar eclipses are not perceived as a problem - ummmm MU - 8/21 10:36:15
          RE: Solar eclipses are not perceived as a problem - paleojas MU - 8/21 10:38:09
               RE: Solar eclipses are not perceived as a problem - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:34:33
                    RE: Solar eclipses are not perceived as a problem - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:37:54
                         RE: Solar eclipses are not perceived as a problem - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:40:26
                              RE: Solar eclipses are not perceived as a problem - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:41:00
                                   RE: Solar eclipses are not perceived as a problem - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:42:28
               what's really fvcking stupid is trying to compare "climate - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 10:49:53
                    90Tigeriny indeed - JG A - 8/21 11:08:44
                         vapid (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 11:10:03
                              You will need to step up your game to be considered - JG A - 8/21 11:20:23
                    Climate change isn't a theory. It's an observation - paleojas MU - 8/21 10:52:05
                         RE: Climate change isn't a theory. It's an observation - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:31:18
                              So we should throw out all scientific consensus? - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:35:11
                                   RE: So we should throw out all scientific consensus? - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:39:10
                                        RE: So we should throw out all scientific consensus? - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:39:54
                                             RE: So we should throw out all scientific consensus? - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:45:14
                                                  RE: So we should throw out all scientific consensus? - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:46:09
                                                       RE: So we should throw out all scientific consensus? - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:51:35
                                                            RE: So we should throw out all scientific consensus? - paleojas MU - 8/21 16:59:55
                         I think it is funny - meatiger MU - 8/21 10:59:29
                              RE: I think it is funny - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 11:54:15
                                   It is done equally by both sides - meatiger MU - 8/21 11:59:35
                         So are hallucinations, Pail o' jizz... nm - hokie VT - 8/21 10:57:50
                              grow up (nm) - pickle MU - 8/21 11:11:26
                         "concensus"? you think knowing the exact location of - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 10:57:23
                              "guesswork" - meatiger MU - 8/21 11:16:38
                                   stay on topic, now, meat - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 12:36:55
                                   based on the accuracy of those models to date, yes. You - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 11:20:04
                                        I don't track the models - meatiger MU - 8/21 11:26:33
                                             Another thing - meatiger MU - 8/21 11:38:34
                                                  so which models are shown to be anything better than - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 12:36:29
                                                       Models are not simply guesswork - meatiger MU - 8/21 12:57:10
                                                            yeah, no #hit, and the models they have are $hit. good - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 14:45:33
                                                                 How do you know their models are $hit? - meatiger MU - 8/21 15:31:39
                                        RE: based on the accuracy of those models to date, yes. You - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:21:54
                                             i didn't follow any links - what models do you have that - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 12:37:41
                              RE: "concensus"? you think knowing the exact location of - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:01:30
                                   No, you tell me. The answer: you don't fvcking know or - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 11:09:35
                                        Too many big words in there for ya? - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:11:06
                                             Just simplify it and copy and paste the conclusions (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 11:20:32
                                                  Because you're unable to copy and paste yourself... - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:24:02
                                                       ie., they don't know. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 12:38:10
                                                            RE: ie., they don't know. (nm) - paleojas MU - 8/22 04:43:50
                         someone has a chip on his shoulder (nm) - pickle MU - 8/21 10:54:35
                              RE: someone has a chip on his shoulder (nm) - paleojas MU - 8/21 10:57:24
                                   believe me - pickle MU - 8/21 11:08:00
                                        Thanks for the advice - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:08:35
                                   well, folks can tell us to the second on every spot on earth - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 10:58:58
                                        It's those same predictive models that allow us to know how - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:08:04
                                             definitely a dh (nm) - pickle MU - 8/21 11:09:25
                                                  yup (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 11:10:23
               Where did ummmm - meatiger MU - 8/21 10:42:06
               I didn't say anything about Internet research. - ummmm MU - 8/21 10:41:02
                    RE: I didn't say anything about Internet research. - paleojas MU - 8/21 10:46:57
                         Yeah, that's what he just stated you buffoon (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 10:50:28
                              Right. I'm sure he knows the difference between a scientific - paleojas MU - 8/21 10:54:22
                                   no need for him to know the difference. you should be - 90Tiger MU - 8/21 11:08:23
                                        Thanks for the advice - paleojas MU - 8/21 11:12:39
                                             RE: Thanks for the advice - MOCO SON MU - 8/21 12:06:24
                                                  RE: Thanks for the advice - paleojas MU - 8/22 04:44:48
     We should have paid China & India what they wanted - mu7176grad MU - 8/21 10:36:13
     Either a perfect parody or a Toro alt - JG A - 8/21 10:34:49
          What is a Toro alt? - paleojas MU - 8/21 10:39:01
               someone that registered 16.11 years ago with - JG A - 8/21 10:40:08
                    RE: someone that registered 16.11 years ago with - paleojas MU - 8/21 10:42:36
                         Yup - JG A - 8/21 10:44:42
                              RE: Yup - paleojas MU - 8/21 10:45:07




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