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Those are two separate issues. Some might say that poverty

Posted on: August 7, 2017 at 15:23:55 CT
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causes crime... leaving aside the veracity of that assertion for the moment, do you think that until poverty is eliminated murder should be accepted, much less funded by the government?

Of course not. One problem does not excuse murder.

As to your other assertion that "the pill", "the morning after pill" and condoms would reduce the number of abortions indirectly by reducing the number of pregnancies, there are two huge problems with it.

1. Margaret Sanger proclaimed that legalizing contraception would eliminate unwanted pregnancies. She pleaded that if the nation followed her plan that "every child {would be} a wanted child". She got her wish with regards to the first part, but her predictions were the opposite of what actually happened. History actually proved Pope Paul VI correct in his predictions that it would degrade the respect for women by separating the inherent connection between the unitive and procreative aspects of "the marital act" and that it would result in much misery, especially for women and children due to adultery, divorce, the use of people as sexual objects for one's own pleasure, premarital sex and so on.

It turned out that women were indeed treated as sexual objects for the pleasure of men. Adultery and premarital sex became common and the number of divorces shot through the roof. Along with broken families there were many teen pregnancies and the STDs became rampant.

We ended up with far more "unwanted pregnancies" rather than fewer.

It was counter intuitive to many, just like the use of condoms in the battle against AIDS was in Africa. In the countries that promoted abstinence the AIDs epidemic dropped significantly. In the countries that promoted the use of condoms and "safe sex" the AIDS epidemic got worse.

2. Both the pill, but more especially "the morning after pill" often do not prevent pregnancy, but instead induce a very early abortion... the killing of an innocent human being. One might argue over percentages of actual "contraception" vs early abortion, but the fact of the matter is that one cannot promote things that cause abortions as a means to reduce abortions.
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     RE: Why I never support the Right - "Savage Wing" - sarasotatiger MU - 8/7 13:55:50
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          He voted for Obama who waged 8 years of senseless war - El-ahrairah KC - 8/7 11:59:16
               raskolnikov is an idealogue with no conscience. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 12:24:18
               Thank you for that ROFLMFAC opportunity - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 12:01:20
                    Well, Obama can take 'credit' for 8 million executions of - JeffB MU - 8/7 12:13:43
                         How many did W have? What about Reagan? How many - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 14:22:11
                              They worked to stop the slaughter, the Clintons and Obama - JeffB MU - 8/7 15:02:02
                    he bombed 8 countries - El-ahrairah KC - 8/7 12:06:37
                         RE: he bombed 8 countries - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:10:55
          That is SO far down my list of priorities to be unseen - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 11:57:44
               The deliberate slaughter of 3,000+ innocent human beings - JeffB MU - 8/7 12:16:13
                    How about your present something to reduce unwanted - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 14:15:40
                         Those are two separate issues. Some might say that poverty - JeffB MU - 8/7 15:23:55
               There was no "era of backalley abortions." - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 12:10:45
                    "Pro-Abortion" - you have one sick mind mthrfckr(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 14:17:39
                    Debunking the myth of ‘back-alley’ abortions... - JeffB MU - 8/7 12:22:48
               What do the faith blinded people need to do? - El-ahrairah KC - 8/7 12:04:09
     If he never does, he's as closed minded as the - GA Tiger MU - 8/7 11:33:58
     Meaningless words with no evidence backing them.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 11:24:14
     incoherent babble. stop being a sheep, rask (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 11:23:36
     You know what's savage, bud? - Evenflow MU - 8/7 11:11:53
     RE: Why I never support the Right - "Savage Wing" - MOCO SON MU - 8/7 11:03:44
     You're more the helpless, clueless wing. - RHAYWORTH MU - 8/7 10:52:59
          Do you deny Mr Chomsky's point? - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 10:59:02
               what is his point? it's hyperbolic, unspecific vitriol inten - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 11:25:56
                    Not even close - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 11:53:01
                         lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:12:27
                         You're an idiot - pickle MU - 8/7 12:00:36
                              Prove it(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 12:02:37
                         Did you not see my article citing surveys that only 30% - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 11:56:50
                              No. I didn't see it. Post it again - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 11:59:24
                                   Single payrr is failing all over the world .. - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 12:06:38
                                        Interesting video. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 16:14:04
                                        Really a 21 year old study ?? Wow - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 14:25:59
                                             The video is recent, no? (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 16:15:00
                                        he still hasn't seen it (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:03:14
                                             SORRY. Do you reference a BBC story on the UK - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 14:28:39
                    Its like asking a vegetarian for a steakhouse recommendation - RHAYWORTH MU - 8/7 11:41:32
                         rask flies to the light of that nonsense like a moth to - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 11:45:23
               RE: Do you deny Mr Chomsky's point? - MOCO SON MU - 8/7 11:08:01
               I don't consider Chomsky a valid, or reliable source. - RHAYWORTH MU - 8/7 11:04:53
               What point? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 11:02:15
     It's nice that Noam Chomsky took a break from praising - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:51:10
          Weak deflection(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 10:53:28
               What is the point, rask? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 11:09:55
               From what? I'm not here to defend Paul Ryan. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 11:02:58
     Speaking of savages - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 10:49:01
          ^ here's one now (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 10:51:35
               Lol (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 10:52:07
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     Paul Ryan isn't a group - pickle MU - 8/7 10:47:43
          whadda you know, he is too a group - that is a joke - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 10:52:49
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