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100% fatality rate. Clinical drug trials are voluntary.

Posted on: February 7, 2017 at 14:17:34 CT

TigerMatt STL

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People should know the risks when signing up. If they don't understand death or severe health consequences is a possibility, it is on them.

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What is an accepatable amount of casulaties - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:05:40

What definition of casulaty are you using? - JG A - 2/7 14:58:47

You failed here in a dramatic manner. There really is no - 90Tiger MU - 2/7 14:34:26

How did I fail? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:36:33

Frequently and badly - JG A - 2/7 15:08:25

Your analogy was awful. You've backed off on - 90Tiger MU - 2/7 14:44:09

I made clear it was not really an analogy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:46:12

RE: I made clear it was not really an analogy - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:48:03

Becasue, again, I wanted to know if people have an absolute - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:51:07

Every medication we have - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:57:24

And I would not necessarily disagree with that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:58:46

do you not understand that is done - meatiger MU - 2/7 15:04:15

I know that full well - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 15:28:27

RE: I know that full well - meatiger MU - 2/7 16:29:40

Because your question is a logical fallacy for starters (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/7 14:37:20

Whatever the subject accepts. But zero for animals. - GA Tiger MU - 2/7 14:25:24

You are the first to simply answer the question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:27:10

Your question is a false premise (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/7 14:33:04

100% fatality rate. Clinical drug trials are voluntary. - TigerMatt STL - 2/7 14:17:34

I know that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:22:10

RE: I know that - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:26:15

People will at times die from reactions to the drug - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:27:50

That is why I said 100% fatality rate. If people - TigerMatt STL - 2/7 14:30:11

I know that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:31:24

They get what they ask for? - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:35:35

Yes, they know it can be a consequence - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:37:33

RE: Yes, they know it can be a consequence - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:39:55

I am not making an argument - I asked a question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:40:54

Well. Frankly it is a dumb question - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:43:42

Collateral damage is not an issue in both cases? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:44:48

RE: Collateral damage is not an issue in both cases? - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:46:26

I made clear it was not really a parallel - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:47:24

RE: I made clear it was not really a parallel - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:49:56

What do you mean I knew what the answer would be? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:52:03

Why would I? It is unfortunate, but they willingly signed - TigerMatt STL - 2/7 14:33:27

So for you, collateral damage resulting in death is not the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:38:20

False premise (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/7 14:43:43

4Tigs struggles with rights - pickle MU

- 2/7 14:34:47

RE: People will at times die from reactions to the drug - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:28:46

It doesn't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:29:31

RE: It doesn't - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:33:36

There is no collateral damage in the drug trial scenario - pickle MU

- 2/7 14:43:08

But in some cases, while looking to do good - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:39:11

RE: But in some cases, while looking to do good - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:41:49

How did I force beliefs on others here by asking a question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:44:15

RE: I know that - pickle MU

- 2/7 14:24:43

It's not any kind of parallel at all - pickle MU

- 2/7 14:14:28

Participants in research trials are volunteers, they've - glue MU - 2/7 14:09:33

I know - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:10:29

RE: What is an accepatable amount of casulaties - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:07:56

So in your mind, it is OK to kill someone prematurely - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:10:08

RE: So in your mind, it is OK to kill someone prematurely - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:12:18

People are lamenting the military strikes because of the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:17:26

No - pickle MU

- 2/7 14:25:50

RE: People are lamenting the military strikes because of the - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:24:30

I realize that, and I believe trials are worth doing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:26:23

The question is baseless - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:27:48

It relates to whether there is an absolute position held - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:28:53

RE: It relates to whether there is an absolute position held - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:31:59

The only comparison is the notion of collateral damage - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:34:57

RE: The only comparison is the notion of collateral damage - meatiger MU - 2/7 14:37:17

How many of those killed in collateral damage volunteered - TigerMatt STL - 2/7 14:18:54

For the third or fourth time - I get that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/7 14:23:25

You really struggle with rights (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/7 14:26:42