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I am sure they can document failures in the current system

Posted on: February 7, 2017 at 10:17:20 CT
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right?

But here is the rub...

Not one act of violence has occurred based on the current vetting system.

Not one.

Telling.
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What is the goal of the ban?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:11:51
     you are proof that those freaking out haven't read it (nm) - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:38:46
          Read it? It is stupid, why would I read it?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:55:56
               good lord (nm) - Sal KC - 2/7 11:13:42
               Classic (nm) - pickle MU - 2/7 11:07:00
               how do you know it's stupid if you haven't read it? - 90Tiger MU - 2/7 11:00:45
     To deprive decent hard-working and wonderful Muslims, - hokie VT - 2/7 10:34:54
          delay, not deprive (nm) - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:36:12
     It's as if you cannot read English - Spanky KU - 2/7 10:32:28
     keep the bad people out of the country(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/7 10:31:28
          Yeah, how'd you get here? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/7 10:34:59
     thought you read the EO - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:28:23
     Control (nm) - pickle MU - 2/7 10:25:45
          You're not wrong, Pickle. nm - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 2/7 10:46:24
     to implement a better vetting program.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/7 10:13:51
          WHAT ? - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:21:22
               the ban is intended to ensure nobody gets through until - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:33:44
                    NOBODY GETS THROUGH - from any nation in which - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:57:04
                         it's obama's list, rask (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/7 12:18:05
                    RE: the ban is intended to ensure Trump gets to be a racist - catbirdseat MU - 2/7 10:43:04
                         How is this racist if it is based on a religion. nm - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 2/7 10:45:13
                              lol (nm) - Sal KC - 2/7 10:46:07
                         You come across as not having any idea what is in the - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:45:08
                              No. Facts say not one person has done anything - catbirdseat MU - 2/7 10:46:38
                                   Clearly you've decided to eschew ration for rhetoric - 90Tiger MU - 2/7 10:50:38
                                   Then why did Obama regularly bomb those countries? (nm) - Sal KC - 2/7 10:47:29
                    Nobody from countries that have done nothing - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:37:20
                         First, that's factually untrue, second, that doesn't - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:40:04
                              Oh, are the scary, scary men there too?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:57:44
                                   Yes, there are people who wish to harm the US and - 90Tiger MU - 2/7 11:41:31
                         "countries that have done nothing" - Sal KC - 2/7 10:38:11
                              RE: "countries that have done nothing" - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:58:54
                              we bomb them because they don't sponsor terrorists - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:40:38
               So you'd like to see a massive attack on home soil - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 2/7 10:26:57
                    I really don't care - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:32:28
                    A massive attack on home soil isn't going to be stopped - catbirdseat MU - 2/7 10:28:31
                         I am so scared of the scary men(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:33:19
                         It can certainly stop some. See Europe. nm - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 2/7 10:31:59
                              SO WHAT ?? - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:35:39
                                   Mental illness is something that needs to be addressed - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 2/7 10:43:13
                                        Yes - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:47:52
                                             Iran, Iraq. The war. I agree. BS. However, ISIS, their - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 2/7 11:02:32
                                                  They are criminals - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 11:08:11
                                                       It's unfortunate that ISIS is "Islamic" and it - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 2/7 11:24:40
                              No, they can't. 1.8 million illegal border crossings last - catbirdseat MU - 2/7 10:35:08
                                   No duh. But you should just harbor all of them, right? nm - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 2/7 10:36:36
               Pol Pot - catbirdseat MU - 2/7 10:24:14
               It is hard to change something while it is in use. - SuperTone MU - 2/7 10:22:50
                    So why ban seven nations that never did anything - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:28:33
                         "never did anything" - the nations were put on a list by Oba - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:35:54
                              It is a STUPID PLAN(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:38:12
                                   improving vetting processes is stupid? evaluating the - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:41:23
                                        Yes - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:46:08
                                             Your sudden found outrage and position is noted - - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:49:21
                                                  Yes., I am busted in that failure - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:54:16
                                             They are treating it as such - Sal KC - 2/7 10:46:47
                                                  Obama is wrong too - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:51:38
                                                       so what? - Sal KC - 2/7 10:52:52
                                                            I don't buy it - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:55:18
                                        He doesn't even know those 7 countries - Sal KC - 2/7 10:42:47
                                             He knows zero about the issue. (nm) - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:43:37
                              That last part is key - Sal KC - 2/7 10:37:35
                         Obama said they were bad countries and had put in - SuperTone MU - 2/7 10:31:36
                         Lol ask Obama why those countries were targeted - Sal KC - 2/7 10:29:44
          What's wrong with the current system? Who says - MrBlueSky MU - 2/7 10:15:34
               the people we elected to make such a determination. - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:37:08
               The homeland security committee said it - SuperTone MU - 2/7 10:19:06
                    Not buying it, sorry - raskolnikov MU - 2/7 10:26:50
                         silly. You support tighter gun laws, but those won't elimin - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:38:03
                         only refugees go through the program, not all immigrants. - SuperTone MU - 2/7 10:33:03
                              he's ignorant. he hasn't read the EO, doesn't know what - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:42:11
                         Supertone wants all immigration stopped. That would - MrBlueSky MU - 2/7 10:31:01
                              see, this is the silly type of thing you say when you don't - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:42:41
                              Where did you get that from? (nm) - Sal KC - 2/7 10:31:20
                                   Globalism is bad blah blah blah (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/7 10:31:45
                                        lol - immigration isn't globalism. I asked you the other da - 90Tiger ATL - 2/7 10:43:20
                                        You still have no idea what globalism is. - SuperTone MU - 2/7 10:32:28
                                             Nationalism absolutely is isolationist. - MrBlueSky MU - 2/7 10:34:34
                                                  No it isn't. Not even remotely. Get a damn clue - SuperTone MU - 2/7 10:36:03
                                                  You are clueless (nm) - Sal KC - 2/7 10:34:48
                                        Nationalism isn't anti-immigration (nm) - Sal KC - 2/7 10:32:06
               See the San Bernardino killings for an example - Spanky KU - 2/7 10:18:35
                    Why? - tigerdb MU - 2/7 10:31:53
                    One person on a visa takes part in a mass shooting - MrBlueSky MU - 2/7 10:28:18
                         it makes even less sense when you consider that the - tigerdb MU - 2/7 10:32:45
               I am ok having one standard for all countries - tman KC - 2/7 10:18:29
               I am sure they can document failures in the current system - catbirdseat MU - 2/7 10:17:20
                    when you fail, you go big.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/7 10:20:04
                    yes it has. - Coors4bob MU - 2/7 10:19:37
                    So you're not willing to improve something if there is - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 2/7 10:19:16
                         Not if it violates MY rights and the rights of my friends. - catbirdseat MU - 2/7 10:21:16
                              What rights are they violating? The green card thing was a - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 2/7 10:24:13
                              How are your rights being violated by Trump's EO? - Sal KC - 2/7 10:22:32
                              it doesn't violate any constitutionally protected rights.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/7 10:21:45
                         No, because Trump said it needs improved - Sal KC - 2/7 10:19:51
               Dead in CA, FL, MA. Lots to still come. - Coors4bob MU - 2/7 10:16:23
     It's clear what the goal is - Sal KC - 2/7 10:13:15




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