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Posted on: February 1, 2017 at 13:02:05 CT
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Below is a summary of the process for a refugee to get to the US. I will note a few points for you to consider: a) these refugees clearly aren't paying for flights to the US or paying fares on ships, b) they are being processed by a FEDERALLY FUNDED camp and c) the US pays UN dues which pays for their vetting at that stage.
Given your non-interventionist, non-interference, non-taxation principles, do you support the US getting these folks here to be refugees in the first place?
Shouldn't you be hopping mad about the theft that takes place to fund the process of moving and housing refugees, not just the final immoral process of the US checking them for security??
Surely you advocate the immediate termination of the US taxpayer funded refugee transport and rescue process, right?
Not to mention, what business does the US have interfering with this at all?
If they can walk, swim, pay for transport privately to get here, that's different. But you and I are paying for these people to get here.
Thoughts?
Meatiger - is this more big-govt over-reach?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/16/politics/syrian-refugees-u-s-applicants-explainer/
How do refugees come to the United States?
Potential refugees first apply for refugee status through the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR), the international body in charge of protecting and assisting refugees.
[gold[The UNHCR essentially decides who merits refugee status based on the parameters laid out in the 1951 Refugee Convention, which states that a refugee is someone who "owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality, and is unable to, or owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country."
READ: Passport linked to terrorist complicates Syrian refugee crisis
If it's demonstrated that the refugee in question meets the above conditions, the applicant may be referred by the UNHRC for resettlement in a third country, such as the United States, where he or she will be given legal resident status and eventually be able to apply for citizenship.
After the UNHCR refers a refugee applicant to the United States, the application is processed by a federally funded Resettlement Support Center, which gathers information about the candidate to prepare for an intensive screening process, which includes an interview, a medical evaluation and an interagency security screening process aimed at ensuring the refugee does not pose a threat to the United States.
The average processing time for refugee applications is 18 to 24 months, but Syrian applications can take significantly longer because of security concerns and difficulties in verifying their information.
Given your non-interventionist, non-interference, non-taxation principles, do you support the US getting these folks here to be refugees in the first place?
Shouldn't you be hopping mad about the theft that takes place to fund the process of moving and housing refugees, not just the final immoral process of the US checking them for security??
Surely you advocate the immediate termination of the US taxpayer funded refugee transport and rescue process, right?
Not to mention, what business does the US have interfering with this at all?
If they can walk, swim, pay for transport privately to get here, that's different. But you and I are paying for these people to get here.
Thoughts?
Meatiger - is this more big-govt over-reach?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/16/politics/syrian-refugees-u-s-applicants-explainer/
How do refugees come to the United States?
Potential refugees first apply for refugee status through the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR), the international body in charge of protecting and assisting refugees.
[gold[The UNHCR essentially decides who merits refugee status based on the parameters laid out in the 1951 Refugee Convention, which states that a refugee is someone who "owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality, and is unable to, or owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country."
READ: Passport linked to terrorist complicates Syrian refugee crisis
If it's demonstrated that the refugee in question meets the above conditions, the applicant may be referred by the UNHRC for resettlement in a third country, such as the United States, where he or she will be given legal resident status and eventually be able to apply for citizenship.
After the UNHCR refers a refugee applicant to the United States, the application is processed by a federally funded Resettlement Support Center, which gathers information about the candidate to prepare for an intensive screening process, which includes an interview, a medical evaluation and an interagency security screening process aimed at ensuring the refugee does not pose a threat to the United States.
The average processing time for refugee applications is 18 to 24 months, but Syrian applications can take significantly longer because of security concerns and difficulties in verifying their information.
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