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How did they march through the gates, George?

Posted on: January 26, 2017 at 16:10:41 CT
Spanky KU
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Because the defending general (Wu Sangui) formed an alliance with the Manchus to expel a rebel force from Beijing AND OPENED THE GATES!!!

It was not breached... the enemy (Qing) formed an alliance with the Ming defenders and were no longer considered enemies.... that was foolish because the Qing defeated the Mings AFTER they TOGETHER defeated the rebel forces

Edited by Spanky at 16:11:10 on 01/26/17
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Hadrian built a wall to keep the barbarians out... - Star Warrior STL - 1/26 14:13:20
     Israel built one and it does work (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 1/26 14:44:14
          did you not see World War Z?(nm) - MrTruman2U MU - 1/26 17:33:22
     Hadrian's Wall seemed to have worked. It was never breached - Spanky KU - 1/26 14:31:18
          LOL so your history is on par with your English - JG MU - 1/26 14:42:04
               My history is spot on.. - Spanky KU - 1/26 14:53:18
                    LOL oh its usual all right - JG MU - 1/26 14:58:54
                         Show me where I was incorrect - Spanky KU - 1/26 15:02:05
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                                   And the Wall was breached... where? - Spanky KU - 1/26 15:41:11
                                        LOL ok - JG MU - 1/26 15:45:38
                                             No.. It is not 'semantic'. It is a fact that the actual WALL - Spanky KU - 1/26 15:50:16
                                                  RE: No.. It is not 'semantic'. It is a fact that the actual WALL - JG MU - 1/26 15:59:58
                                                       How did they march through the gates, George? - Spanky KU - 1/26 16:10:41
                                                            So it was breached by treachery - JG MU - 1/26 16:14:17
                                                                 Not breached... - Spanky KU - 1/26 16:17:07
                                                                      that includes gates - JG MU - 1/26 18:31:05
          they were both breached - TheShoe STL - 1/26 14:40:40
               When? - Spanky KU - 1/26 14:43:15
                    So now you want to define HOW the wall failed???(nm) - TheShoe STL - 1/26 14:44:20
                         No.. you do! - Spanky KU - 1/26 14:46:53
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          People were killed if they tried to scale the E. German wall - Star Warrior STL - 1/26 14:21:43
               The Berlin Wall was a prison wall - Spanky KU - 1/26 14:59:11
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                    If it worked so well, why did they tear down that Berlin - tigerdb MU - 1/26 14:35:06
                         Because the NEED for it went away... - Spanky KU - 1/26 15:10:24
                         that's one of the more stupid posts ever on this board - FootballRefugee MU - 1/26 14:41:00
                    what worked? The Berlin Wall? - Star Warrior STL - 1/26 14:26:50
                         It is meant to slow invaders until they can be apprehended - Spanky KU - 1/26 14:57:16
                         If we are, gun turrets are cheaper than walls(nm) - TheShoe STL - 1/26 14:28:19
                              No.. they aren't - Spanky KU - 1/26 15:09:32
     Well Chinese wanted to keep out Mongols - JG MU - 1/26 14:15:00
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