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The US became an empire in the late 19th century

Posted on: December 28, 2016 at 15:47:44 CT
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In The Costs of War (edited by John Denson), historian Joseph Stromberg referred to the Spanish-American War of 1898 as a “trial run” for the American empire. The war had nothing to do with national defense and was purely an act of imperialism on the part of the U.S. government, which gained control over Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippine Islands. It led the renowned late nineteenth-century libertarian scholar,
William Graham Sumner of Yale, to compose a famous essay entitled
“The Conquest of the United States by Spain.” The essay described how the
war transformed America from a constitutional republic into an imperialist
power, just like the old Spanish Empire it defeated in the war.


Since then, the US has been in a constant state of war and empire building (war is the health of the State) that continues today. You have been programmed that this is good, that this is in "our" national interests; you have been programmed to defend and support US foreign policy and the lies surrounding it. Look at the nearly identical response 4Tigs and Ferg gave yesterday regarding Israel.

Couching sinister plans as "national interest" hits a button that generates automatic and thoughtless support.

Edited by pickle at 15:49:20 on 12/28/16
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The US became an empire in the late 19th century - pickle MU - 12/28 15:47:44
     i agree with every word of this (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 17:39:59
     Hard to say 4Tigs and Ferg without - JG A - 12/28 17:09:25
     You are an expert on thoughtless support - FootballRefugee MU - 12/28 16:57:42
          Footballrefugeeiny - JG A - 12/28 17:12:26
     RE: The US became an empire in the late 19th century - MOCO SON MU - 12/28 16:25:23
          Well you thought wrong - pickle MU - 12/28 16:39:00
               RE: Well you thought wrong - MOCO SON MU - 12/28 16:42:51
                    hogwash (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 17:41:03
                    No, it exists by force. All government exists by force - pickle MU - 12/28 16:47:02
                         That is not true. They may evolve into something - tman KC - 12/28 16:52:42
                              It is 100% true (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 16:56:51
                                   You made a lot with that comment. It is false(nm) - tman KC - 12/28 16:57:40
                                        It's not false. - pickle MU - 12/28 17:14:00
                                             my hunter gather tribe of 10 elected me chief. i'm a - blake1771 KC - 12/28 17:26:43
                                                  that's not an example of government (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 17:34:20
                                                       Add alot with this post(nm) - tman KC - 12/28 17:35:29
                                             No I dont. You should have just said wrong board - tman KC - 12/28 17:18:26
                                                  No, this is the proper board for this discussion - pickle MU - 12/28 17:20:51
                                                       No. Again you are wrong. You on the other - tman KC - 12/28 17:34:48
                                                            of course i acknowledge the State - pickle MU - 12/28 17:37:42
                                                                 I do and you are wrong - tman KC - 12/28 17:55:33
                                                                      yes, the State exists - pickle MU - 12/28 18:18:38
                                                                           I have read them previously and that is why - tman KC - 12/28 19:27:11
                                                                                RE: I have read them previously and that is why - pickle MU - 12/28 19:50:51
                                                                                     What. By your logic all States are created by force - tman KC - 12/28 22:41:50
     when was California made a state? How was it acuired? - Spanky KU - 12/28 16:18:02
          How did West Virginia become a state? That is still - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 16:22:14
               RE: How did West Virginia become a state? That is still - Role Call MU - 12/28 16:23:41
                    I know a little. Why do you think Edward Bates - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 16:26:30
                         Can one state be carved out of another under Constitutional - "Wild Bill" Donovan MU - 12/28 17:19:32
                              Correct, by following every prescription required - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 17:43:38
                                   RE: Correct, by following every prescription required - "Wild Bill" Donovan MU - 12/28 19:49:20
     cool(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 12/28 16:11:49
     The man without a country (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 12/28 16:04:24
          I have a country (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 16:07:15
               RE: I have a country (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 12/28 16:44:23
                    America. I live in America (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 16:47:41
                         RE: America. I live in America (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 12/28 16:49:24
                              No (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 16:50:25
                                   RE: No (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 12/28 16:55:08
                                        I didn't say the United States of America is my country - pickle MU - 12/28 16:59:20
                                             RE: I didn't say the United States of America is my country - MOCO SON MU - 12/28 17:02:54
                                                  Ok, DOC (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 17:15:37
     Pickle wants to roll human organization back to hunter - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/28 16:03:40
          RE: Pickle wants to roll human organization back to hunter - MOCO SON MU - 12/28 16:34:43
               That is incorrect - pickle MU - 12/28 16:37:06
                    "We're"? You're in one now? Lemme guess. You're a gatherer. - Emoji Man MSU - 12/28 16:41:00
                         Thanks. My autocorrect likes to change "were" to "we're" - pickle MU - 12/28 16:42:15
                              C'mon. Freudian slip? Is this hunter gatherer society you - Emoji Man MSU - 12/28 16:45:27
                    RE: That is incorrect - MOCO SON MU - 12/28 16:39:41
                         What an odd reply (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 16:41:08
          Apart from the fact I don't want that at all - pickle MU - 12/28 16:11:29
          This is simply non-sense - ummmm MU - 12/28 16:07:41
               Given pickle's "willingness" to explain himself, - GA Tiger MU - 12/28 16:27:33
                    While pickle can be curt at times, the totality of his - ummmm MU - 12/28 16:36:15
                         Since EVERY opinion ever given of pickle has - GA Tiger MU - 12/28 18:31:12
                    I've never wondered that at all - pickle MU - 12/28 16:32:15
                         So glad to hear about your willingness to explain yourself. - Emoji Man MSU - 12/28 16:38:16
               you're half right - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/28 16:09:51
                    You don't. - pickle MU - 12/28 16:12:54
                         Probably all of the above but - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/28 16:17:31
                         Juvenile name calling does nothing to repair your tarnished - Emoji Man MSU - 12/28 16:15:52
                    Not at all. I don't doubt that you think you do - ummmm MU - 12/28 16:11:43
     wrong board. - Emoji Man MSU - 12/28 15:59:00
          Agreed. Nick should make an Imperialism Board. - Evenflow MU - 12/28 16:11:20
               We could call it the kook board. - Emoji Man MSU - 12/28 16:17:45
                    Agreed that imperialists are kooks. - Evenflow MU - 12/28 16:21:09
                         Let's just count our blessings that we live in a land free - Emoji Man MSU - 12/28 16:29:47
          No(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 12/28 16:01:00
               Wrong board(nm) - tman KC - 12/28 16:07:09




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