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homosexuality & bestiality not so long ago.

People laughed at the idea of homosexual marriage only a decade or two ago.

People were laughing at the absurdity of "transsexual rights" even more recently, and now organizations are getting notices that they have to change their by-laws per government edict.

The movement for "inter-generational love" is following the same path as the homosexual movement did. In fact, the change in the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and statistical which was changed due in no small measure to threats and intimidation by homosexual activists, which redefined homosexuality such that it was no longer a mental disorder unless the homosexuals felt it had a significant negative impact upon their lives opened the door to removing other mental disorders, such as pedophilia from their manual listing mental disorders:

http://web.archive.org/web/20110321102724/http://narth.com/docs/pedophNEW.html

The authors conclude that behavior which psychotherapists commonly term "abuse" may only constitute a violation of social norms. And science, they say, should separate itself from social-moral terminology. Religion and society, these writers argue, are free to judge behavior as they wish...but psychiatry should evaluate behavior by its own set of standards.

In fact, the authors of the Psychological Bulletin article propose what they consider may be a better way of understanding pedophilia: that it may only be "abuse" if the child feels bad about the relationship. They are in effect suggesting a repetition of the steps by which homosexuality was normalized. In its first step toward removing homosexuality from the Diagnostic Manual, the A.P.A. said the condition was normal as long as the person did not feel bad about it.

Few laymen are aware that the American Psychiatric Association recently redefined the criteria for pedophilia. According to the latest diagnostic manual (DSM--IV), a person no longer has a psychological disorder simply because he molests children. To be diagnosed as disordered, now he must also feel anxious about the molestation, or be impaired in his work or social relationships. Thus the A.P.A. has left room for the "psychologically normal" pedophile.

See also:

On the Pedophilia Issue:
What the APA Should Have Known
By Joseph Nicolosi, Ph.D. and Dale O'Leary

http://web.archive.org/web/20080111154134/http://www.narth.com/docs/whatapa.html

The APAs: 'Academic Pedophile Advocates'

http://www.wnd.com/1999/03/2723/

The A.P.A. Normalization of Homosexuality, and the Research Study of Irving Bieber

http://www.narth.com/the-apa---bieber-study

To keep the record straight against the threat of psychological revisionism, from time to time, The NARTH Institute publishes important historical articles. Much of what we know about homosexuality has been updated and expanded since Bieber first wrote his article in 1987, but there still is much to be learned from these early observations.

The complete journal article can be accessed by clicking here

The article first appeared in Scientific Controversies: Case Studies in the Resolution and Closure of Disputes in Science and Technology, edited by H. Tristam Engelhardt Jr., and Arthur Caplan, Cambridge U. Press, 1987.

Dr. Bieber was one of the key participants in the historical debate which culminated in the 1973 decision to remove homosexuality from the psychiatric manual.

His paper describes psychiatry's attempt to adopt a new "adaptational" perspective of normality. During this time, the profession was beginning to sever itself from established clinical theory--particularly psychoanalytic theories of unconscious motivation--claiming that if we do not readily see "distress, disability and disadvantage" in a particular psychological condition, then the condition is not disordered.

On first consideration, such a theory sounds plausible. However we see its startling consequences when we apply it to a condition such as pedophilia. Is the happy and otherwise well-functioning pedophile "normal"? As Dr. Bieber argues in this article, psychopathology can be ego-syntonic and not cause distress; and social effectiveness--that is, the ability to maintain positive social relations and perform work effectively--"may coexist with psychopathology, in some cases even of a psychotic order."

NARTH President Charles Socarides argued the same point in a review he wrote of gender researcher Robert Stoller's Pain And Passion: A Psychoanalyst Explores The World Of S & M. In that book, Dr. Stoller acknowledged the psychodynamic causes of sadomasochism, and then described practices, utensils, and bodily parts used in sadomasochistic performances. He offered a six-page listing of the various methods used to inflict pain and humiliation on willing victims, including the different hanging techniques used to achieve orgastic ecstasy. But then Stoller claimed sadomasochism was no more abnormal than "dislike of zucchini"--asserting that only our "deep prejudices" about perversion lead us to label it abnormal.
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               It is an obsession - ummmm MU - 9/5 12:22:58
                    It is an open disagreement on strongly held positions with - JeffB MU - 9/5 13:06:35
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                    So Rhayworth is concerned about it--maybe more so than - Alferd Packer MU - 9/5 11:45:37
                         Everyone is concerned about it. - ummmm MU - 9/5 11:52:20
                              Actually, there is a nascent movement to change child - JeffB MU - 9/5 12:20:18
                                   That will go nowhere, and you know that. (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/5 12:22:18
                                        That's what they said about the decriminalization of - JeffB MU - 9/5 13:03:02
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                                        Could you please critique/review my rendition of pickle's - JeffB MU - 9/5 13:04:58
                              I think people understand pickle's, read anarchists' positio - JeffB MU - 9/5 11:56:06
                                   Honestly, with the exception of a handful of libertarians - ummmm MU - 9/5 12:19:02
                                        OK, here's my rough rendition of pickle's position. I would - JeffB MU - 9/5 12:38:42




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