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Then you'll segregate people based on ability and deny

Posted on: July 25, 2016 at 22:36:20 CT
Bulldog Bob Brown STL
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Opportunity to the less gifted.

Some may need 8 or so years to get up to snuff in the STEM fields that are financially attractive
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Free college for everybody - 615Tiger STL - 7/25 22:13:47
     right? why wouldn't we want more people to be educated? - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:14:53
          why not let people decide what is best for themselves? - SuperTone MU - 7/26 06:50:43
          I paid for my college - El-ahrairah STL - 7/25 22:23:33
               RE: I paid for my college - "Wild Bill" Donovan MU - 7/25 22:32:06
               because they can't. and we want a better society - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:27:37
                    speak for yourself (nm) - pickle MU - 7/26 05:43:27
                    I think everyone should get free doctorates...that'd - tiger98 MU - 7/25 22:55:45
                         it's not free degrees for everyone, it's free access to - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:05:23
                              lol (nm) - pickle MU - 7/26 05:43:45
                              so the government picks the lucky. Back to my initial - tman KC - 7/25 23:08:44
                                   'the lucky' they are actually kind of 'favoring' those that - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:11:44
                                        of course you think it is too high. should be 40K - tman KC - 7/25 23:15:31
                                             right, i think kids that grow up in ****ty situations - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:18:28
                                                  They have that today. They are called scholarships. - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:20:58
                                                       unfortunately, those aren't available to every kid that - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:23:32
                                                            B plus inner city will get a scholarship - tman KC - 7/25 23:27:20
                                                            If you put your nose in your books and the best you - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:26:22
                                                  Then you support school vouchers?(nm) - tman KC - 7/25 23:20:25
                                                       vouchers for what? (nm) - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:21:15
                                                            to go to a better elementary or high school - tman KC - 7/25 23:30:42
                                                                 THAT'S an idea that I like. More control to the - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:36:17
                                                                      yep. And wouldnt cost anything additinal. Might also cost - tman KC - 7/25 23:51:26
                              Whats wrong with access to free doctorates?(nm) - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:07:08
                                   huh? nothing. they are giving access to that education - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:08:27
                    They can go - El-ahrairah STL - 7/25 22:29:59
                         Do you think credit markets for - Fat Drunk and Stupid MU - 7/25 22:37:01
                              you miss a key point. Harvard, by setting fees and tution - tman KC - 7/25 22:40:24
                         so we want more people in $100k debt coming out of college? - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:33:27
                              A 100k debt can be paid off in 5 years - El-ahrairah STL - 7/25 22:38:35
                                   haha so $50k/year right out of college... - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:42:57
                                        50k is not unreasonable out of college - El-ahrairah STL - 7/25 22:49:09
                                             very, very unreasonable. most don't make anywhere near - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:50:44
                                        I am still paying for law school 22 years later - tman KC - 7/25 22:45:32
                                             i'm not sure that it is. this plan would make it so you - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:48:24
                                                  I am very successful, and I am not who he is talking - tman KC - 7/25 22:50:59
                                                       good for you, honestly. you made it, you did well - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:54:30
                                                            so free college for all because it might help 1%? 5% - tman KC - 7/25 22:57:43
                                                                 "for all" it's not for all. - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:00:06
                              so why is college so expensive? - tman KC - 7/25 22:38:22
                                   college being expensive is a whole other, gigantic issue - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:40:57
                                   RE: so why is college so expensive? - El-ahrairah STL - 7/25 22:40:54
                         Ding ding - tman KC - 7/25 22:31:04
          How much free college will one get over a lifetime?(nm) - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/25 22:17:08
               i don't think he mentioned, but i'm guessing the normal - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:19:14
                    we already have too many people in college - El-ahrairah STL - 7/25 22:24:47
                    Will entrance requirements still be the same, say like - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/25 22:22:52
                         i hope there'd be some kind of requirement - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:28:22
                              Then you'll segregate people based on ability and deny - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/25 22:36:20
                                   Sounds like a way for government to yet again pick - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/25 22:39:48
                                   yep, life won't be fair for everyone. this is just trying - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:37:44
                              So free if you meet what (income limits) - tman KC - 7/25 22:34:50
                                   so far, it's family income - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:36:17
                                        Really. I will break this down in simple parts - tman KC - 7/25 22:43:43
                                             the poor, which will get the education (nm) - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:44:20
                                                  good. Now stay with me. What is the educational - tman KC - 7/25 22:48:03
                                                       currently? knowing they'll never go to college or do - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:49:54
                                                            ah, so single parents in the cities will Crack down - tman KC - 7/25 22:55:20
                                                                 i think kids will see that they have a way out - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:58:20
                                                                      so you are ok just giving free college to those in the - tman KC - 7/25 23:00:03
                                                                           yes. i am 100% for helping people that don't have the - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:01:49
                                                                                If I were making $130k and had an 18yo, I'd just get a lower - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:09:20
                                                                                     then do that, you're more than welcome to - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:13:00
                                                                                          When it comes to money, people will do what will - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:23:49
                                                                                               'save them the most money' which is unfortunate - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:29:00
                                                                                     why should what you make determine if your son - tman KC - 7/25 23:12:38
                                                                                          because your son or daughter don't get to pick if they have - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:20:35
                                                                                               starting with elementary education. But you aren't for that - tman KC - 7/25 23:32:23
                                                                                          It shouldn't and it's a silly idea.(nm) - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:18:37
                                                                                So lets put a flat tax for free college - tman KC - 7/25 23:04:43
                                                                                     'flat tax' nobody knows how they're gonna end up deciding - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:06:26
                                                                                          You said you don't want to pay 50%. How much you willing to - tman KC - 7/25 23:11:07
                                                                                               ummm... i'm not sure. i'm already paying a bunch in - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 23:14:04
                                                                                                    Thank you. so you are willing to pay 3% for free college - tman KC - 7/25 23:33:42
                                                                                                         Would 3% from everyone cover it? I'm thinking it - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:39:21
                                                                                                              3% isn't close but there are also a lot of - tman KC - 7/25 23:52:38
                         NO need. All go. There should be no rejections - tman KC - 7/25 22:24:11
                              Opportunity based on academic ability alone seems like - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/25 22:26:16
                                   Agree. Harvard could take all of East StL high - tman KC - 7/25 22:33:10
                    Most take 5 plus years. I am guessing your share should be - tman KC - 7/25 22:22:21
                         'most' may be right, but the 4yr, if that's the plan, is - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:25:08
                              You do realise that there's more kids going to - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:16:24
                              How will this help those who have degrees now yet can't - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/25 22:29:12
                                   i don't know. i definitely know that a smarter society - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:35:04
                              the math is pretty basic. What do you want to see? - tman KC - 7/25 22:28:57
                                   i want to see less people that can't afford college - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:31:32
          how many you going to pay for? - tman KC - 7/25 22:16:41
               why shouldn't everybody be able to get into the Ivy leagues - "Wild Bill" Donovan MU - 7/25 22:20:14
               distributed among everyone, not much at all - TigerwTLP MU - 7/25 22:18:25




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