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My ranking of th issues/implications of Trump, Esptein files
Posted on: July 19, 2025 at 14:48:10 CT
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3. Pictures, or other evidence of Trump being friends with Epstein, engaging in lewd and lascivious behavior &/or consensual sex adts with adult women associated with Epstein:
Nothing burger. We already knew that. The evidence might be embarrassing or even exceptionally embarrassing, but he would be extremely foolish to suppress the release of the Epstein files because of that. He would be better served to release it all (other than protecting the minors or other innocents, of course) and suffer whatever embarrassment might result from it.
2. Evidence that Trump had engaged in sex with minors or other very serious criminal matters or other things so embarrassing that would give blackmailers significant leverage over his political decisions for the country:
This is a HUGE deal. If the crime(s) were past the statute of limitations he might be willing to release the files anyway. It would obviously cripple him and his agenda for what is left of his term and would expose him to more huge lawsuits, and would largely destroy his legacy, but it would be best for the country and the world and from my point of view would actually enhance my estimation of his character. He would clearly be putting the interests of the country above his own. I would guess that it would take a near miracle for this sort of result, however.
3. The files indicate that Trump was caught in a honeypot blackmail operation and the blackmailers, whoever they may be, have him by the balls. This is the worst case scenario and it leaves Trump, the US and the world in a VERY bad situation. Regardless of his own personal goals and principles, he would in effect be a puppet of The Deep State that he promised to dismantle during all three of his presidential campaigns.
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Trump had bragged that he could murder someone in broad daylight in the streets of New York and his MAGA would still be his strong supporters & defenders. To a remarkable extent that was actually true. Although that wouldn't have included me, if given the binary choice between Trump and Hillary, or Biden, or Harris I would have probably still voted for Trump even if any of the above 3 potential scenarios was known before the election. That is how evil I believe that the leadership in the Democratic Party has become over the last few decades or so.
But I don't think that even his strong base will support him as perhaps he thought it would if it were revealed, even via strong circumstantial evidence, either scenario 2 or 3 were in fact true. "We have your back!" has its limits for everyone. Those limits may vary from person to person, but Trump doesn't have a large enough majority among the electorate, the senate or the congress to be able to have his coalition split with any significant loss of support. A house divided amongst itself will not stand.
Trump & Don, Jr. campaigned in a big way on his promise to "Drain the Swamp". They had also campaigned on transparency and releasing the Epstein files to the public, in addition to whatever government info could be declassified regarding the JFK files, UFOs (& 911?). If Trump knew that he was in those files in such a way that he could not release them if he won, he made a major miscalculation of his base. He never should have overpromised in such a huge way. I am not sure if he was just too overconfident that the sheeple would follow his commands even if he made such an abrupt and contradeictory way, or if he didn't realize what the blackmailers had on him or on people that he was not willing to expose until it was too late, but the fact is that he is now in a very precarious place... dangling in the wind.
It seems to me that the best case scenario would be that it would reveal some embarrassing things about himself or his family & friends and he thought his sheeple would fall in line, but now that he realizes that he will lose too many supporters he will do another about face and release the files, and will just let the chips fall where they may. Even if the consequences are pretty severe for him or his family & friends, I think that would still be the best course for the country.
3. Pictures, or other evidence of Trump being friends with Epstein, engaging in lewd and lascivious behavior &/or consensual sex adts with adult women associated with Epstein:
Nothing burger. We already knew that. The evidence might be embarrassing or even exceptionally embarrassing, but he would be extremely foolish to suppress the release of the Epstein files because of that. He would be better served to release it all (other than protecting the minors or other innocents, of course) and suffer whatever embarrassment might result from it.
2. Evidence that Trump had engaged in sex with minors or other very serious criminal matters or other things so embarrassing that would give blackmailers significant leverage over his political decisions for the country:
This is a HUGE deal. If the crime(s) were past the statute of limitations he might be willing to release the files anyway. It would obviously cripple him and his agenda for what is left of his term and would expose him to more huge lawsuits, and would largely destroy his legacy, but it would be best for the country and the world and from my point of view would actually enhance my estimation of his character. He would clearly be putting the interests of the country above his own. I would guess that it would take a near miracle for this sort of result, however.
3. The files indicate that Trump was caught in a honeypot blackmail operation and the blackmailers, whoever they may be, have him by the balls. This is the worst case scenario and it leaves Trump, the US and the world in a VERY bad situation. Regardless of his own personal goals and principles, he would in effect be a puppet of The Deep State that he promised to dismantle during all three of his presidential campaigns.
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Trump had bragged that he could murder someone in broad daylight in the streets of New York and his MAGA would still be his strong supporters & defenders. To a remarkable extent that was actually true. Although that wouldn't have included me, if given the binary choice between Trump and Hillary, or Biden, or Harris I would have probably still voted for Trump even if any of the above 3 potential scenarios was known before the election. That is how evil I believe that the leadership in the Democratic Party has become over the last few decades or so.
But I don't think that even his strong base will support him as perhaps he thought it would if it were revealed, even via strong circumstantial evidence, either scenario 2 or 3 were in fact true. "We have your back!" has its limits for everyone. Those limits may vary from person to person, but Trump doesn't have a large enough majority among the electorate, the senate or the congress to be able to have his coalition split with any significant loss of support. A house divided amongst itself will not stand.
Trump & Don, Jr. campaigned in a big way on his promise to "Drain the Swamp". They had also campaigned on transparency and releasing the Epstein files to the public, in addition to whatever government info could be declassified regarding the JFK files, UFOs (& 911?). If Trump knew that he was in those files in such a way that he could not release them if he won, he made a major miscalculation of his base. He never should have overpromised in such a huge way. I am not sure if he was just too overconfident that the sheeple would follow his commands even if he made such an abrupt and contradeictory way, or if he didn't realize what the blackmailers had on him or on people that he was not willing to expose until it was too late, but the fact is that he is now in a very precarious place... dangling in the wind.
It seems to me that the best case scenario would be that it would reveal some embarrassing things about himself or his family & friends and he thought his sheeple would fall in line, but now that he realizes that he will lose too many supporters he will do another about face and release the files, and will just let the chips fall where they may. Even if the consequences are pretty severe for him or his family & friends, I think that would still be the best course for the country.
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My ranking of th issues/implications of Trump, Esptein files - JeffB MU - 7/19 14:48:10