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Posted on: October 2, 2021 at 22:56:05 CT
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... then I can counter by saying we never get Chase Daniel here if Brad didn't win those 2 Illini openers & Nubs '03 on national TV (which was, of course, a bigger deal in those days).

Yes, I agree that there was no Shreveport if Chase didn't lead the ISU comeback. But I doubt Chase would've ever come here had we continued to be a perennial 3-8 or 2-9 team. Brad helped bring growth to the program, hence my point about Brad saving Pinkel's tenure initially.

Feel free to point out more of my shortsightedness.
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For those of you that don't remember the early Pinkel years - withUmizzou MU - 10/2 22:01:20
     This was a huge play too. Down 21-0, South Carolina about - TigerMatt STL - 10/2 22:49:01
     I know I did. I was wrong.(nm) - ROLLATIGER MU - 10/2 22:37:36
     He had poor coords, and blamed the players for their - ADelpiero10 MU - 10/2 22:26:04
          RE: He had poor coords, and blamed the players for their - KCMuskie MU - 10/2 22:48:39
          He had to be coached several times to quit blaming the playe - FootballRefugee MU - 10/2 22:32:18
     I remember beating defending Big Ten champ Illinois - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/2 22:13:25
          I remember beating MAC preseason favorite Central Michigan - DrViagra MU - 10/2 22:16:28
     for good reason (nm) - pickle MU - 10/2 22:10:14
     And after 2008 - FootballRefugee MU - 10/2 22:06:59
     Chase Daniel saved his ass. - Emoji Man OU - 10/2 22:05:31
          RE: Chase Daniel saved his ass. - 78tiger MU - 10/2 22:09:30
               Marcus King’s interception saved it.(nm) - MNTIGER MU - 10/2 22:46:05
               i know about Brad Smith. They were going to miss a bowl in - Emoji Man OU - 10/2 22:14:58
                    Chase should have replaced Brad in 2005 - FDogg MU - 10/2 22:23:10
                         Pinkel tried to help his pro prospects by making him a - Emoji Man OU - 10/2 22:24:44
                              It worked out poorly, but I respected Pinkel for - Blood Green MU - 10/2 23:06:11
                                   It was ruinous - FootballRefugee MU - 10/2 23:09:13
                              Agreed on that part. - TigerDeep MU - 10/2 22:28:19
               Correct. Pinkel might've been canned... - TigerDeep MU - 10/2 22:11:26
                    Without Marcus King interception, there would have been no - MNTIGER MU - 10/2 22:48:21
                    Or if Daniel... - FootballRefugee MU - 10/2 22:14:45
                         Thanks Guy. I was at both. - TigerDeep MU - 10/2 22:17:20
                              Thanks, Chick, so was I. And you .... - FootballRefugee MU - 10/2 22:21:25
                                   If you're conveniently going to go backwards like that... - TigerDeep MU - 10/2 22:56:05
                                        That's easy, you're changing the subject... - FootballRefugee MU - 10/2 23:04:51
               tremendous? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/2 22:11:19
                    yes, pickle - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 10/2 22:15:22
               More than one thing can be true. - FootballRefugee MU - 10/2 22:10:48
               No, it was Brad Smith first. - 78tiger MU - 10/2 22:10:34
                    true, but Brad's last two seasons weren't great - zoomer 99 - 10/2 22:12:42
                         There sure was. - FootballRefugee MU - 10/2 22:15:35
          Daniel didn't win 2 SEC division titles.(nm) - withUmizzou MU - 10/2 22:08:20
               Hard to do in the Big 12. - FootballRefugee MU - 10/2 22:16:46
                    Just pointing out that Pinkel's success wasn't all Chase (nm) - withUmizzou MU - 10/2 22:25:29
                         Ok, ok - FootballRefugee MU - 10/2 22:35:39
          Yes - FootballRefugee MU - 10/2 22:07:23
          Well, Brad Smith helped some too. nm. - MUTGR MU - 10/2 22:07:15
               No one could single handedly win or lose a game like Brad! - FDogg MU - 10/2 22:09:11
                    Brad Smith singlehandedly won many games for us. - withUmizzou MU - 10/2 22:10:37
          Chase instantly made everyone on offense better (nm) - zoomer 99 - 10/2 22:06:39
               Yeah. And I think that success made everybody work harder - Emoji Man OU - 10/2 22:09:09
                    RE: Yeah. And I think that success made everybody work harder - 78tiger MU - 10/2 22:11:56
     True, but in hindsight we were right about Eberflus - jlbomega MU - 10/2 22:05:30
          except for when he wasn't - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 10/2 22:06:40
               I do not recall 03 or 04 being great defensive efforts - jlbomega MU - 10/2 22:08:26
                    38th in 2003, 23rd in 2004, and 33rd in 2006 - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 10/2 22:11:59
                         I'd kick a puppy for those rankings now and I'm a dog - lqf2b8 MU - 10/2 22:19:51
                              yes, that's what we need to shoot for - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 10/2 22:28:58
                                   you are just full of stupid. Even when I try to be nice and - lqf2b8 MU - 10/2 22:32:01
                                        what are you talking about? Are you drunk? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 10/2 22:50:17
     RE: For those of you that don't remember the early Pinkel years - slamduncan KC - 10/2 22:02:03




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