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much less. the frank haith years should be viewed as

Posted on: April 16, 2021 at 12:12:00 CT
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our worst, not our best. and certainly not some unattainable fairy tale of success that can never be reached again, as some on here will no doubt be quick to throw out.

our expectation should be to finish in the top half of the conference pretty much year in and year out, and top 4 more often than not. an occasional finish in the bottom half could be accepted as a temporary outlier, a fluke brought on by injuries or other external factors. but certainly not the norm. and there's absolutely no scenario that justifies us continuously finishing below programs like mississippi state, south carolina, texas a&m, ole miss, etc.

overall we've become a program that looks a lot more like vanderbilt than we'd like to admit.
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Are we winning more or less than expected in SEC? - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16 10:10:30
     RE: Are we winning more or less than expected in SEC? - HSCoach STL - 4/16 14:04:01
          We raised the bar for every team in the SEC - 68-69ron MU - 4/16 17:29:33
          yeah SEC owes BB success to us. (nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16 17:25:56
     Seems pretty obvious doesn’t it? (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/16 12:33:49
     "Ol Miss owns us, next dumb question.........nm - tigertix MU - 4/16 12:18:10
          I look forward to all of your posts(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16 12:27:01
     much less. the frank haith years should be viewed as - phrejd MU - 4/16 12:12:00
          Why should we claim to be above programs like - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16 12:16:58
               Which one of those has had better programs? - the808bass MU - 4/16 12:33:11
               those programs have not been historically better. not close. - phrejd MU - 4/16 12:28:10
                    Spending is a big issue - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16 13:55:10
                         agreed. it's a problem (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/16 14:24:28
                              To have higher expectations the AD needs to invest more - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16 16:35:08
                    So NCAA appearances count? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16 12:29:42
                         MS St FF year team wasnt great - the808bass MU - 4/16 12:36:23
                              RE: MS St FF year team wasnt great - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16 12:44:16
                                   Its a ridiculous single metric for measuring a program (nm) - the808bass MU - 4/16 16:38:07
                                   those were fluke years for them. i'd say the fact we haven't - phrejd MU - 4/16 12:47:08
     A historic downturn in our program plus SEC football - jlbomega MU - 4/16 11:51:27
          yeah, Bama doubles our basketball spending now - zoomer 99 - 4/16 11:54:54
     It's pathetic is what it is. nm. - MUTGR MU - 4/16 11:40:51
     MU's program collapse since joining the SEC has - FIJItiger MU - 4/16 10:43:37
          It's more about coaching and chemistry - KC rules MU - 4/16 21:23:29
          The assumption at the time was that we would struggle to - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16 11:20:18
          Our ascension toward the middle of the pack could be - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16 10:49:34
               How badly did that hurt Southern Cal? - ERB KC - 4/16 16:10:59
          I have to agree. I thought we'd be a consistent Top 4... - Lerxst MU - 4/16 10:49:10
               It makes me wonder if the SEC is also tougher - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16 11:18:56
                    It definitely is in my opinion. Our 2012-13 team is - FIJItiger MU - 4/16 13:47:02
                    The SEC has definitely upped their game in BB since we - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16 11:23:10
               Yep. CM was tasked with rebuilding. Really could have - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16 10:52:44
                    I agree with everything you said with the exception of CM's - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16 11:28:24
                         RE: I agree with everything you said with the exception of CM's - Third_Eye STL - 4/16 13:08:57
                              Stop already! The Porters were coming to Mizzou as long as - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16 13:28:24
                         My only point is that if he cheated the way Will Wade - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16 12:13:15
                              Agree with everything you posted there. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16 12:43:14
     The SEC expected us to be top 4 every year. - alwaysright MU - 4/16 10:27:03
          According to what? - Genco98 MU - 4/16 10:58:27
               They talked openly about how Missouri would improve the - alwaysright MU - 4/16 11:59:23
                    I don't recall that - Genco98 MU - 4/16 12:31:40
                         no pretty sure that was coming from coaches, ADs and - phrejd MU - 4/16 12:48:48
               I think it was general knowledge that we were - Tptiger MU - 4/16 11:38:08
          We finished top 4 in 2/15 years prior to joining the SEC - zoomer 99 - 4/16 10:35:05
               SEC vs Good Big 12 - alwaysright MU - 4/16 11:58:17
                    This is a myth - zoomer 99 - 4/16 12:03:01
               yikes. 9/15 tourney teams in prior 15 (nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16 10:36:06
                    What does that have to do with expecting MU to be top 4? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16 10:45:14
                         it's directly related to the success in prior 15 yrs(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16 11:03:50
          they sound dumb(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16 10:31:34
          link to budget? - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16 10:25:01
               RE: link to budget? - zoomer 99 - 4/16 10:27:01
                    Outspend Georgia (!) and Mississippi St (nm) - DrViagra MU - 4/16 10:36:13
                    thanks(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16 10:35:36
     It is funny that Kim’s best finish was 2-16 record. - DrViagra MU - 4/16 10:20:42
          Drinkwitz’s energy may give bball the margin needed to be - the808bass MU - 4/16 12:10:50
          I thought he got to 3 one year. (nm) - mizzou john MU - 4/16 11:29:23
          He was just a disaster. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 4/16 10:50:34




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