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Chang era > Martin era.(nm)
Posted on: April 16, 2021 at 09:39:35 CT
Carlos Rossi
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What encapsulates my view of the Martin era:
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slamduncan
KC
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4/16 06:33:33
To be fair, we have to consider where we were when
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MNTIGER
MU
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4/16 09:40:43
Losing MPJ hurt, but don't forget that the recruiting class
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 09:58:09
It's still baffling to me how the MPJ injury went down.(nm)
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sprintcar
STL
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4/16 09:47:03
Chang era > Martin era.(nm)
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Carlos Rossi
KC
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4/16 09:39:35
Missouri hasn't won the regular season conference title
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alstl
MU
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4/16 08:56:44
until the people in power care about w's & l's, they have
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TigerAlum91
MU
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4/16 08:45:37
RE: until the people in power care about w's & l's, they have
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Third_Eye
STL
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4/16 09:00:03
For 3 yrs from 2014-17 we were the worst program
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/16 07:49:51
We made the tourney. We are relevant (nm)
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TigerA
MU
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4/16 07:58:19
I’ll let you guys argue relevant but this is an indisputable
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alwaysright
MU
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4/16 08:44:44
i never said otherwise although thinking someone is a pussy
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TigerA
MU
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4/16 08:53:49
Be in the middle.
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alwaysright
MU
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4/16 08:56:13
for CM i think that's true. he hasn't been great and hasn't
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TigerA
MU
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4/16 09:00:22
Half of the P5 teams make the tourney every year. Tourney
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 08:31:28
i would say being average is relevant. would obviously like
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TigerA
MU
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4/16 08:34:42
Really? Can you name the last three teams to finish 7th in
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 08:40:21
Lol(nm)
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redngray
MU
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4/16 08:23:06
And we did it the right way(nm)
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DollarSigns
MU
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4/16 08:01:24
We are somewhat relevant to our own fanbase
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/16 08:00:26
Not exactly true. Our "relevancy" dipped at the end of the
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 08:21:13
RE: Not exactly true. Our "relevancy" dipped at the end of the
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SEMO_Hillbilly
UMKC
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4/16 10:28:25
Definitely, we were nationally relevant for various points
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/16 08:33:07
RE: Definitely, we were nationally relevant for various points
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 08:36:26
Almost every season there is a team that cracks the top ten
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 08:35:16
At the end of noncon play we were definitely nationally
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/16 08:45:16
Yes it did.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 08:37:51
Relevance is not that transitory in my opinion. Every year
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 08:46:24
RE: Relevance is not that transitory in my opinion. Every year
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Third_Eye
STL
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4/16 10:19:01
VCU did for a couple of years, they lost their coach and
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 11:41:03
Yeah, so we have different definitions of it. That's fine. (nm)
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 08:48:19
Mid-stride to an era
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raskolnikov
MU
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4/16 07:16:27
Not a fan but Haith averaged 25 wins in his tenure and won a
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 08:33:16
It's crazy to think...
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BayStateTiger
MU
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4/16 08:45:44
The more Haith got his own players the less he won (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/16 08:54:22
How is that different from CM? He won some in year one with
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 09:53:20
Maybe there really are people that think
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/18 09:04:37
A mediocre program under a mediocre coach. If this board is
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 07:09:49
i haven't seen anyone say he is great and certainly the
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TigerA
MU
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4/16 08:29:14
^^This^^
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 08:55:17
It is also appropriate for fans to want a successful program
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 10:00:52
See, you and I just don't see eye to eye on much.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 10:09:59
Weak P5 conference, I am not comparing us to the MAC or
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 11:48:19
I don't know what gives you that impression, but I know
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 11:54:41
Since 2000, a bit before we joined the SEC but close enough.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 12:11:24
We are 10 games under .500 in SEC play under Martin
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/16 07:53:23
In our best years under Martin, we are a little above
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 08:06:36
My personal assessment of the odds of each of your scenarios
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 08:28:31
Got it. I know you are more pessimistic than I am about
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 08:47:42
Pointing out that our coach has not accomplished anything in
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 08:53:45
RE: Pointing out that our coach has not accomplished anything in
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Third_Eye
STL
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4/16 10:35:20
So others can express their opinions time after time but it
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 11:50:56
That's not true. They post on a number of topics.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 11:57:02
You are a little myopic in your assessment. I have posted
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 12:17:37
RE: Pointing out that our coach has not accomplished anything in
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 09:05:38
None of those were bashing our coach.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 09:34:29
No. I think it's fine to criticize the program.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 09:42:57
That isn't true at all.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 08:58:38
He has averaged 8th place finishes in the SEC. Has never
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 09:45:49
This I agree with...
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BayStateTiger
MU
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4/16 10:09:42
Yep. Salaries are completely inflated.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 10:11:19
So the only "accomplishments" a coach can have is to
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 10:01:56
You just listed a bunch of participation trophies and tried
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/16 12:01:40
I think they probably finish between 1 & 2 next season (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/16 08:13:31
I agree with that completely
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/16 08:10:20
This(nm)
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WrightWing
MU
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4/16 07:49:23
Sometimes it's not the message...
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BayStateTiger
MU
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4/16 07:16:53
You are going to hurt yourself straddling that fence(nm)
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DollarSigns
MU
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4/16 07:59:01
HAHAHA...
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BayStateTiger
MU
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4/16 08:04:50
Mizzou hasn’t been a yearly Tournament team in 30 years
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/16 07:40:08
No offense, but you have become one of the most negative
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/16 07:57:09
RE: No offense, but you have become one of the most negative
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TONYTIGR
MU
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4/16 08:19:53
None taken (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/16 08:28:54
Probably a Sterk plant. (nm)
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Newcatbirdseat
MU
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4/16 08:01:45
There’s an expectation that doesn’t match the history
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/16 08:01:39
Its odd how only people who don't recall or weren't
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/16 08:05:50
Its going to take a better coach too(nm)
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DollarSigns
MU
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4/16 08:02:29
That’s possible
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/16 08:10:42
The difference with Drew is he has been able to
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DollarSigns
MU
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4/16 08:24:29
His best team wasn’t with elite recruits
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/16 08:42:56
And you also see coaches who never get very good, or
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Newcatbirdseat
MU
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4/16 08:16:36
Sure that’s a possibility as well
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/16 08:20:06
I think that's the point that makes me mildly hopeful.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 12:00:34
It will basically happen overnight at Arkansas.
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Newcatbirdseat
MU
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4/16 07:50:07
Anderson won 60% of his games at Arkansas
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/16 07:56:20
Mizzou has a lot better history in a lot of people's minds
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sprintcar
STL
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4/16 07:47:19
the excuses are beginning to run out...the rest of your post
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tigertix
MU
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4/16 07:29:07
Another problem...
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BayStateTiger
MU
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4/16 08:03:40
Your take is the right one.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/16 08:12:01
Yep. I'm with you guys too.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/16 09:34:34