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Yet the greatest challenges throughout history have not come

Posted on: April 15, 2021 at 09:17:14 CT
4TigersinMichigan MU
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from those who desire to cooperate. It is in failing to deal adequately with those who desire not to.

One may wish to look to Portland as a wonderful example of what happens when people agree not to agree, and there is little done beyond asking them to agree to agree moving forward.
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What I learned yesterday - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:10:50
     What if it is just a dispute without - tman MU - 4/15 10:47:53
          This would be a better question - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:56:59
               I suppose that is solid - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 11:01:52
                    Why should every solution be fully thought out? - meatiger MU - 4/15 11:06:22
                         I am so very glad you posted that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 11:08:03
                              Also..who would be better at coming up with solutions - meatiger MU - 4/15 11:13:11
          The natural goodness of man and their desire to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:53:35
     smug troll too smug to learn (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/15 09:58:16
          But he nailed this one - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:01:19
               you misspelled failed (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/15 10:48:30
               no (nm) - pickle MU - 4/15 10:09:46
     I don't see how anyone could disagree with that. nm - hokie VT - 4/15 09:39:57
     straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 4/15 09:24:29
          and you pickle, are a lying man. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/15 09:46:03
               i don’t lie, RHAY - pickle MU - 4/15 09:53:15
                    It's been my experience, when someone tells me that, - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/15 10:32:01
                         link to a single lie and prove it, RHAY (nm) - pickle MU - 4/15 10:51:36
                              I'm not playing the pickle/jg game. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/15 10:59:19
                                   But in some ways you are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 11:03:07
                                        all i ask is that people be honest - pickle MU - 4/15 11:17:01
                                   yes, it’s a “game” to ask you to back up your claims - pickle MU - 4/15 11:02:27
                         liar (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/15 10:49:09
          Some people cannot comprehend that the government - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:29:12
               How would private business have accountability without - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/15 09:54:55
                    You cite government created monopolies. Big corporations - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:59:17
               As long as I get my F-22 I'm down(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/15 09:42:34
     RE: What I learned yesterday - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:15:33
          Ahhh, the purple headed lesbian gnome - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:19:11
               Women work just as hard as the men do. They practice as - hokie VT - 4/15 09:48:26
                    And this is viewed in our woke world as wisdom - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:50:01
                         President Eleven of china would have to approve of NBA - hokie VT - 4/15 09:56:55
                              The hypocrisy of the NBA and their love of China money(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:58:01
                                   RE: The hypocrisy of the NBA and their love of China money(nm) - Outsider MU - 4/15 10:00:28
               Well, she does find other women attractive so maybe that - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15 09:23:25
                    I find other women, no her, attractive. What's your point?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15 09:41:34
                    RE: Well, she does find other women attractive so maybe that - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:27:40
                         She is the Danny DeVito of lesbian gnomes(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:28:29
               Yes, it would but she knows that it is easier - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:22:36
                    If she desires to demonstrate clearly they should be paid - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:27:02
                         RE: If she desires to demonstrate clearly they should be paid - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:34:54
     Humans are inherently cooperative. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15 09:13:23
          Humans are mostly cooperative, not inherently cooperative - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/15 09:46:49
               Humans are inherently cooperative (nm) - pickle MU - 4/15 10:35:41
               Most all laws, rules and policies are in effect because of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:48:56
                    They'd care if private businesses were allowed to - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:10:22
                    I agree and have maintained as much for a long time here... - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/15 09:58:25
                         So many corporate rules and policies are enacted because of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:02:35
                              They are enacted to reduce lawsuits because government - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:11:31
                                   At some point, you have to realize that government is - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/15 10:28:54
                                   Our restriction on tights in the workplace had nothing to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:13:23
                                        Why weren't they just fired?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:14:51
                                             Because they provide value through the work they do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:15:51
                                                  So why couldn't they just be told to wear appropriate - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:16:52
                                                       Because there will always be those who make such choices - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:19:53
          Not all of them. and this society ignores that totally. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/15 09:42:26
          Yet the greatest challenges throughout history have not come - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:17:14
               What is going on in Portland was created by government.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:26:05
                    And government (tax payer) funded - Razor MU - 4/15 09:46:14
                    Specifics would really help make your point stronger. (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:36:55
                    So the government is forcing those people to riot, burn - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:27:43
                         It is a reaction to government created problems.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:30:05
                              So this is how people prone to cooperation can be expected - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:31:11
                                   another straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 4/15 09:41:16
                                   Do you understand there is no cooperation with - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:32:23
                                        Who makes up this government you speak of? (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:38:13
                                             A small body of wealthy people. There is a reason why - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:41:59
                                                  How then did AOC get to where she is today... - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:45:23
                                                       AOC was interviewed and selected by money people looking - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:53:34
                                                            Sure, but how did she get elected? She was running - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:57:22
                                                                 She had the financial backing of wealthy people. Crowley - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:04:27
                                                                      RE: She had the financial backing of wealthy people. Crowley - Outsider MU - 4/15 10:12:21
                                                                           They are only presented choices of who big money selects(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:16:12
                                                                                Money of course helps, which is actually another - Outsider MU - 4/15 10:20:47
                                        I cooperate with the government all the time(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:33:22
                                             You do because you dont want to suffer the consequences - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:13:45
                                                  At stop signs and stop lights, you are right. I comply - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:17:29
                                             No, you comply. Gvmt is not a voluntary relationship (nm) - pickle MU - 4/15 09:41:58
                                                  Who makes up this government? (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:46:42
                                                  He was just posting about his sheriff breaking the law to - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:43:10
                                                       he doesn’t want to listen and consider - pickle MU - 4/15 09:54:53
                                                       Discretion has always been a key element of effective - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:45:37
                                                            That is exactly what we were talking about yesterday - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:15:07
                                                                 And you cannot tell me how your proposed world would handle - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:21:04
                                                                      That is not true at all - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:35:47
                                                            Discretion is not following the law. You don't get to use - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:56:36
                                                                 And there are plenty that didn't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:00:30
                                                                      Was there any threat to safety - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:16:25
                                                                           We don't know - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:22:54
                                                                                Alleged - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:39:03
                                                                      And if there are police that use discretion with white - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:09:06
                                                                           I have never argued against the ills of anyone in authority - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:11:06
                                                            Oh, but that’s EXACTLY what you ask of libertarian solutions - pickle MU - 4/15 09:56:05
                                             Under the threat of force. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:36:21
                                                  I don't stop at a stop sign or at a stop light - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:43:30
                                                       Why do you get tags on your plates? Does your car not - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:45:15
                                                            It does and it would - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:46:32
                                                                 If you don't stop, you can get ticketed. An example.. - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:52:19
                                                                      And I always stop at those - not because I fear getting - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:03:37
                                                                           What happens if it is 2am, no cars around and you are - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:07:14
                                                                                If a light is broken, of course I would go through it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:14:52
                                                                      And you simply sat there and took that act of - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:55:41
                                             You just do what you're told. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15 09:35:29
                         another straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 4/15 09:28:38
               It would be great if those business owners could protect - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15 09:22:53




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