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The talent was not good last year...

Posted on: April 14, 2021 at 10:38:04 CT
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who cares is non "sec caliber" players leave the program.

Braun, Watson and Mark Smith were terrible!

Missouri is in the same position as the rest of the league!

All will be fine, Fiji.. this ain't the titanic bro
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Mizzou Sports Podcast - HSCoach STL - 4/13 20:01:32
     RE: Mizzou Sports Podcast - tigerden MU - 4/14 07:13:18
          I harken back to the offseason of 2008-09 - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 09:53:29
          How dare you have optimism! - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 07:31:04
               solid melodramatic pouting(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/14 11:57:39
               Good summary. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14 07:54:10
               While nobody has ever said something of that nature, its - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 07:52:10
                    sir.. I believe you are not reading the posts - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:28:41
                         That is exactly what I am referring to - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:31:28
                    RE: While nobody has ever said something of that nature, its - tigerden MU - 4/14 08:22:23
                         I think he is without question a man of high character and - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 09:43:32
                         Don't recall anyone questioning his character(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/14 08:47:55
                              Calling him lazy and saying he's essentially stealing money - Cosmo MU - 4/14 09:10:54
                                   That is one guy, who watches Tucker Carlson as a serious - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:24:22
                                        Ok? - Cosmo MU - 4/14 10:55:25
                                             Ok I agree that it is a perspective that is conveyed here(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 11:01:37
                                   Totally agree and worse criticism has been posted(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/14 10:21:16
                                        RE: Totally agree and worse criticism has been posted - Third_Eye STL - 4/14 12:01:12
                                             Totally agree with your comment(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/14 12:17:53
                                        Link?(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/14 10:31:37
                                   RE: Calling him lazy and saying he's essentially stealing money - HSCoach STL - 4/14 10:12:02
                                   i think that's pretty much one poster - phrejd MU - 4/14 09:33:46
                                        The lazy thing isn't many posters I agree - Cosmo MU - 4/14 09:39:35
                                             not stealing just overpaid(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/14 11:59:36
                                                  Even though Mizzou finished exactly where his pay - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 15:15:42
                                                  Any coach that doesn't live up to expectations is overpaid - Cosmo MU - 4/14 13:24:42
                                             well he kinda is. i mean he gets a country club membership - phrejd MU - 4/14 09:54:33
                                                  RACIST!!!1111!!!11! (nm) - Cosmo MU - 4/14 10:04:31
                                                       don't be silly. it's not a racial thing. nobody likes golf. - phrejd MU - 4/14 10:14:13
                                                            TIL I'm Asian (nm) - Cosmo MU - 4/14 10:17:08
                                                                 i always figured you had a little asian in you - phrejd MU - 4/14 10:26:06
                                                                      Is Cosmo letting Tbone get it in while Wildcat is MIA?(nm) - NWMizzouFan KC - 4/14 11:09:24
                              Kim Anderson was a good man too. We should have kept him. - phrejd MU - 4/14 08:50:08
                         Different players, same CM, same system = same results.nm - FentonMizzou MU - 4/14 08:41:15
                              this may be in the top ten of most ridiculous posts i have - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:31:15
                                   your excuses for Martin are what is getting old(nm) - NWMizzouFan KC - 4/14 11:08:58
                              Not really. But go for it. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 08:44:35
                                   .594 win percentage over 13 years suggests otherwise(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/14 08:55:42
                                        That’s better than Mizzou’s win percentage over that same - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 08:57:26
                                             that's also Mizzou's worst period. so neat he's marginally - phrejd MU - 4/14 08:58:53
                                                  Quin, MA and Haith combined for a .61 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:18:02
                                                       Please Stop with this "Huge Rebuild" Excuse - WrightWing MU - 4/14 09:41:22
                                                            this. although i'd say his first class was largely inherited - phrejd MU - 4/14 09:50:04
                                                            He took over a program that won less the 30% of its games - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:48:14
                                                                 The rebuild is certainly not done, not even remotely done(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:04:50
                                                                      The rebuild is just about complete. We will see who is added - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:36:32
                                                                           I do not agree with that point - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:38:35
                                                                                How is Mizzou not close to a normal level? - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 11:00:18
                                                                                     Here are our last 3 SEC finishes: 12th, 10th, 7th - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 11:04:58
                                                                      Ok I disagree - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:09:13
                                                                           We have accomplished nothing, the roster is in shambles, and - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:11:29
                                                                                The talent was not good last year... - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:38:04
                                                                                     It is almost certainly going to be the most talented roster - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:39:56
                                                                                          Why does it "doom us to failure" - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:45:00
                                                                                               I definitely plan on watching all the games - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:49:30
                                                                                Made the tournament 2 of 4 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:14:05
                                                                                     That isn't an accomplishment - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:18:45
                                                                                          It is an accomplishment..... getting in matters..nm - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:38:39
                                                                                               We are rebuilding to very different end points - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:43:01
                                                                                                    It is an accomplishment.. not the end goal - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:58:25
                                                                                                         Playing in the 8/9 game is not an accomplishment for an SEC - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 11:00:46
                                                                                                              Mizzou has made the tournament 16 times in the last - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 12:05:26
                                                                                                                   Doesn't matter, doesn't make it an accomplishment (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 12:11:16
                                                                                                                        Makes it match the history - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 12:14:57
                                                                                                                             Pre 2014. So for people older than 10 or so (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 12:24:29
                                                                                                                                  Even pre 14 most of Mizzou’s tournament appearances - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 12:33:01
                                                                                                                                       Pre 2014 making the tournament was not considered - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 12:35:58
                                                                                                                                            Then there’s been 3-4 successful seasons out of the last - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 12:45:01
                                                                                                                                                 You are equating successful with accomplishment - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 12:55:26
                                                                                                                                                      I’m just stating the baseline of what should be expected - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 13:16:49
                                                                                                                                                           And in this thread I was asked about accomplishments, and - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 13:49:32
                                                                                                                                                                It should be the standard that Mizzou coaches are judged by - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 14:44:21
                                                                                                                                                                     Not accomplishing anything? I'd prefer the standard be that - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 15:29:23
                                                                                          Haith inherited a 2 seed. Though did a great job coaching - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:30:23
                                                                                               What are you talking about? Haith inherited an 11 seed team - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:34:07
                                                                                                    23 wins and in the NIT. Means it wasn’t that good of a team - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:36:54
                                                                                                         I agree, not a good season. But that would definitely - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:41:09
                                                                                                              Really? An NIT team was better than 2 tournament - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:43:08
                                                                                                                   Our 2013-14 team was better than any we have had since - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:46:59
                                                                                                                        It was second in top end talent to the 2018 team - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:50:47
                                                                                                                             That team was way more talented than the 2018 team - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:58:08
                                                                                          it saddens me that there are people who believe simply - phrejd MU - 4/14 10:24:17
                                                                                               There seems to be a decent subset of fans who - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:28:00
                                                                                                    After Haith and Anderson.. you have to start somewhere - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:42:42
                                                                                                         I get that perspective - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:45:20
                                                                                                              I think that is a hugely underestimating the Coach - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 11:03:05
                                                                                                                   I hope I'm completely wrong and proven a fool - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 11:06:51
                                                                                               It’s more the baseline for success - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:27:54
                                                                 good grief (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/14 09:50:31
                                                                      Is that not true? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:56:21
                                                                           this is both lazy and naive - phrejd MU - 4/14 10:12:11
                                                       correct. CM is worse than all those guys - phrejd MU - 4/14 09:30:37
                                                            so for you, no matter what happens - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:46:20
                                                            Really the program Haith inherited - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:36:55
                                                                 in what perverse way is that? (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/14 09:47:33
                                                                      That was your statement (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:48:53
                                                                           sure (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/14 09:53:22
                                                       Yes, it's a massive rebuild, and it's been made longer - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14 09:29:20
                                                            I have never seen this type of rebuild done in 2-3 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:34:04
                                                                 Pearl did it. Wade at LSU did it. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14 09:45:54
                                                                      Being a program of filth like LSU and Auburn - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:48:05
                                                                      Pearl didn’t do it in 2-3 years. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:52:41
                                                                           Okay. So why are so many fans of Mizzou so impatient? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14 10:35:32
                                                                                Because they see Kentucky and Duke do it every year - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:40:29
                                                            at some point they'll have to stop blaming KA for CM's lack - phrejd MU - 4/14 09:33:20
                                                                 Phrejd... you really need to have some perspective - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:50:30
                                                                 I confirm I will never stop blaming Kim (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:06:36
                                                                      "...for CM's lack of success." - phrejd MU - 4/14 10:16:31
                                                                           I plan to continue blaming him for nearly all things (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/14 10:20:16
                                                                                that's fair (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/14 10:25:04
                                                                 2 tournaments in 4 years is a lack of success? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:36:07
                                                                      2 tournaments ending in first round losses in 4 years - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/14 10:01:41
                                                                           I agree, tiresome if it was over a longer period of time - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:52:36
                                                                           It’s been over a decade since Mizzou has a tournament win - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:08:00
                                                                                And it's going to be another decade if we continue - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/14 10:15:21
                                                                                     its not going to be another decade. Once again, the - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:53:28
                                                                                     You can because it was done legally. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:17:39
                                                                                stop using kim anderson as an excuse (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/14 10:13:13
                                                                                     That’s not just KA. It’s also MA and Haith - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:16:11
                                                                                          MA: 3 tourneys in 5 years, and 4 tourney wins - phrejd MU - 4/14 10:19:59
                                                                                               There wasn’t a postseason in year 3 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:32:14
                                                                      0 tournament wins in 7 years - phrejd MU - 4/14 09:46:50
                                             That is a terrible argument to try to make(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/14 08:58:22
                                   what makes you believe that's not the case? (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/14 08:49:13
                                        Players make a huge difference - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 08:56:41
                                             not really. but go for it. - phrejd MU - 4/14 09:00:08
                                                  Like when he had Cal a 4 seed with Brown? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:04:12
                                                       pretty sure that team won as many tourney games as i did - phrejd MU - 4/14 09:29:13
                                                            Except that team had injuries and multiple - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:44:55
                                                                 was that kim anderson's fault too? just trying to make sure - phrejd MU - 4/14 09:52:51
                                                                      Did he have his best players get hurt? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:57:40
                                                                           yeah i already have that excuse noted. you've used it - phrejd MU - 4/14 10:27:17
                                                                                So losing your best playes to injury does not have - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:55:03
                                                                                Even with an outdated scheme - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:34:28




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