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     Even final 4 teams have transfers. It is an epidemic this - muwinn MU - 4/12 15:20:28
     CM's player development is poor(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/12 15:04:15
          Pinson, Pickett and Brown have turned out to be solid. nm - Spartus MWSC - 4/12 21:12:41
     The real question is - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 09:41:04
          LOL(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/12 15:04:31
               Why is that so funny?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 4/12 16:55:17
          That misses the point of some decent guys bolting(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 4/12 12:58:03
               The why doesn’t really matter - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 13:03:01
                    If the coach is a problem - that DOES matter - raskolnikov MU - 4/12 13:19:45
                         You hit on the primary point that renders the thoughts of - longtimereader MU - 4/12 14:15:22
                              Mizzou landed 3 in state recruits in 2021 (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 14:20:28
                                   Top 100? - longtimereader MU - 4/12 15:06:53
                                        Was that a qualifier in your previous statement? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 15:10:49
                                             I didn't but I would hope after all the conversations about - longtimereader MU - 4/12 16:08:52
                                                  Mizzou hasn’t really missed on many in the 60-100 range - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 16:14:09
                                                       Wow!(nm) - longtimereader MU - 4/12 19:02:49
                         I have a theory on why Mizzou has failed - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 13:29:56
          winning cures everything - cal tiger MU - 4/12 11:13:40
          That is not the question at all. The actual question is how - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 10:44:47
               Well you cant stop it for the future, the portal has been - MU-TULSA MU - 4/12 19:12:36
               I am not convinced it’s a good or a bad thing - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 10:48:41
                    There were four open roster spots when they left. They did - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 10:51:39
                         Are you sure of that? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 10:53:34
                              You claimed that they did. Are you sure? If four starters - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 11:00:09
                                   Are you sure none of the recruits were considered - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 11:06:51
                                        Keita is a 3* recruit and Durug was already in the - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 11:19:25
                                             Dru and X were also 3 star recruits - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 11:22:46
                                                  No P5 player is concerned about a 3* player coming in and - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 11:28:08
                                                       Wasn't Kobe ready in year 1? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/12 11:49:20
                                                            6 PPG and 4 RPG is not Earth shattering. About what you - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 12:13:03
                                                                 The guys that transferred aren’t established (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 12:19:19
                                                                      X and Watson had been in the program three years, that is - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 12:25:46
                                                                           X was established - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 12:28:38
                                                                                Watson played 85 games for this team and averaged 17 min - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 12:33:57
                                                                                     RE: Watson played 85 games for this team and averaged 17 min - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 12:37:45
                                                                                          I said he was established. 17 min per game for three years - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 12:45:16
          The real question is to me is what is being done about why - sprintcar STL - 4/12 10:05:15
               It’s not really that many - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 10:09:38
                    Four underclassmen leaving at the same time that five - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 10:48:33
                         I’m not convinced it is a problem - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 10:50:18
                              If you have a flat tire, that is a problem, regardless of if - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 11:02:08
                                   Why do transfers bother so many here? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 11:08:02
                                        Why are you having such a tough time with this? It is - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 11:23:03
                                             The problem is that some of these guys never should have - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/12 11:56:27
                                             Did the transfers under Haith bother you this much?(nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 11:31:27
                                                  At any time in his tenure was Haith down to three players - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 11:33:15
                                                       He returned 1 that played after his first season - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 11:36:48
                                                            Did his entire bench leave too? You keep trying to spin - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 11:46:56
                                                                 It’s really the same issue - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 11:56:27
                                                                      Haith did not create his unbalanced roster, CM did. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 12:27:18
                                                                 You wanted this bench back? - BlackSheep MU - 4/12 11:50:50
                                                                      No, I didn't want it in this shape in the first place. That - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 12:19:11
                                                                           Maybe you missed the last 10 years of Mizzou hoops - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 12:32:47
                                                                                So we are back to 'as long as he is better than our worst - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 12:38:15
                                                                                     You have to overcome the last decade of bad decisions - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 12:45:40
                                                                                          That decade of bad decisions includes hiring, and now - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 13:00:36
                                                                                               Or to keep improving (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 13:01:49
                                                                                                    keep improving requires initial improvement. Finishing in - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 13:06:02
                                                                                                         Mizzou has been in the bottom half of the SEC - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 13:08:50
                                                                                                              He has averaged 8th place, bottom half. This year was 7th - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 13:13:16
                                                                      That was the initial reason for the freak out - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 12:01:25
                                                                           The 'freak out' was not about the players, starters or not, - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 12:22:45
                                                                                Turns out those weren’t the only options (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 12:26:50
                                                                                     Seriously? You think this roster is fixed? A castoff from - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 12:28:57
                                                                                          It’s in a far better spot than it was 3 weeks ago - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 12:35:44
                                                                                               So this is all the better Mizzou can aspire to? Fans like - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 12:50:12
                                                                                                    Mizzou has to keep improving - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 12:54:33
                                                                                                         Four years, ten games below .500 in conference and an - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 13:02:32
     6 (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/12 08:55:17
     I'm not sure it's either. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/12 08:39:41
          Players have open sports in front of them on a P5 roster and - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:08:44
               Could be true. I have heard that the locker room was - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/12 09:33:42
     That and he couldn't coach his way out of a paperbag..nm - tigertix MU - 4/12 08:38:30
     Great thing is that you can have a new team basically. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/12 08:32:25
          I think the players for the most part tried on defense but - Tiger Tim MU - 4/12 16:15:49
          Watson is the one who is really curious to me - FIJItiger MU - 4/12 08:16:20
               In hind site it would have been nice to have given Mark’s - Tiger Tim MU - 4/12 16:17:28
               “a disaster offensively” could lead us in scoring? Huh? - MNTIGER MU - 4/12 10:03:01
               True. He's a good perimeter defender. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/12 08:42:22
               If Watson is leading a P6 team in scoring - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 08:42:21
                    Agree, I also expect us to be a bad team. But Watson - FIJItiger MU - 4/12 08:44:00
                         Based on what? - BlackSheep MU - 4/12 11:48:34
                         If he gets his shot right he could be - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 08:47:24
                              He would be reasonably good if he just stopped taking 3s - FIJItiger MU - 4/12 08:48:45
                                   Please explain that role - BlackSheep MU - 4/12 11:52:14
                                   he has literally no other way of scoring - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 09:03:15
                                        That is all he is left with in MU's offense. I'm talking - FIJItiger MU - 4/12 09:10:07
                                             Please explain what are those skill sets - BlackSheep MU - 4/12 11:55:37
                                             he has no skill set - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 09:14:28
                                                  I bet he ends up a decent scorer elsewhere (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/12 09:18:09
                                                       Against midmajor competition? That's not impossible to - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 09:19:07
                                                            Like our two transfers that we are supposed to be so - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:25:16
                                                                 Will Watson perform like Davis or Coleman? - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 09:28:00
                                                                      You just said he could be successful at the mid-major level - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:33:28
                                                                           You have trouble with reading comprehension - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 09:34:56
                                                                                8-10 versus the 13 Coleman had was night and day. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:47:42
                                                                                     Which lineup do you prefer? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 10:03:22
                                                                                          I would prefer a lineup of SEC level talent. Unfortunately - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 10:19:04
                                                                                               Do you know that Mizzou doesn’t have SEC level talent? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 10:20:21
                                                                                                    At this point in time we have ONE player who has performed - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 10:54:21
                                   He’s not a great athlete and a poor ball handler - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 08:50:39
               So what does that tell you about where this team is? - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 08:23:40
                    Watson is not a difference maker - MizzouGunner MU - 4/12 08:58:53
                         Watson would have been a starter from day one next year, - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:09:55
                              RE: Watson would have been a starter from day one next year, - Third_Eye STL - 4/12 10:15:49
                              there is no world where he would have been a starter(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 09:16:03
                                   Keep telling yourself that. When he chose to transfer there - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:20:48
                                        Many players were in the pipeline - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 09:27:10
                                             I suspect he would not have but there is a very good chance - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:35:03
                                                  Brookshire, Pickett, Keita, Davis, Coleman, Durugordon - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 09:36:35
                                                       Gordon is an all-SEC level player yet he was the third best - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:50:19
     2 of the players transferring have already played 4 seasons - FIJItiger MU - 4/12 08:00:43
     Again, at the risk of defending Martin, it’s really only 4 - alwaysright MU - 4/12 08:00:13
          Why were they expected to leave? That doesn't explain - alstl MU - 4/12 08:02:51
               They left because they are not good..nm - MizzouGunner MU - 4/12 08:59:59
               Saying your best returning player was expected to leave is - the808bass MU - 4/12 08:52:17
                    Because he thought he was going pro. It’s a simple - alwaysright MU - 4/12 10:52:29
               When you graduate five seniors and their replacements, - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 08:14:48
               They were seniors. They were never part of the plan for - alwaysright MU - 4/12 08:05:10
     Kim sucking at every aspect of his job is what sent him - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 07:59:55
          The players that Kim left CM were vastly superior to what - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 08:08:25
               no(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 08:22:55
                    Kobe, Pinkett and Durugordon. That was his team - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 08:26:28
                         That isn't the team that CM will field next year - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 08:28:45
                              I am comparing the team Kim left CM to the team that CM - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 08:32:43
                                   That isn't the team CM left himself - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 08:44:45
                                        That is the players he had left on his roster at the end of - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 08:51:16
                                             CM isn't leaving. A new coach isn't coming in - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 08:55:01
                                                  Kim was probably the worst coach in Mizzou history, - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:05:42
                                                       It's just odd you are invisible during the best season the - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 09:09:16
                                                            The 'best' seasons in nine years was a seventh place finish - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:14:26
                                                                 and yet it was the best season in nearly a decade - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 09:15:11
                                                                      By the time the NFL season was over an I tuned to BB - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:18:05
                                                                           You are welcome to any opinion you want - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 09:24:14
                                                                                When it was succeeding? When exactly was that? For three - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:31:15
                                                                                     they were ranked in the top 10 in February(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/12 09:31:49
                                                                                          Right before they went on to lose 5 of their next 7, all to - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:52:56
               No - FIJItiger MU - 4/12 08:13:03
                    First of all, I don't know that we do. Barnett was far - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 08:21:41
                         Don't quit your day job, Puryear couldn't score in the paint - Central IL Tiger MU - 4/12 20:04:06
                         Barnett as a senior was a good player - FIJItiger MU - 4/12 08:27:55
                              He averaged 12 PPG and 6 rpg his last season under KA. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 08:38:49
                                   That was on a D2 team, stats from that season don't - FIJItiger MU - 4/12 08:43:11
                                        WTF? That was his Junior season at Mizzou that he played - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 08:57:09
                                             My opinion only, but MU didn't field a team in - FIJItiger MU - 4/12 09:00:29
                                                  You have a ton of asinine post, that may be the stupidest. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:19:34
                                        You can pick and choose to fit your agenda all you want but - sprintcar STL - 4/12 08:50:13
                                             I have always consistently said that stats from that era - FIJItiger MU - 4/12 08:53:47
                                                  And you've been consistently wrong.(nm) - sprintcar STL - 4/12 08:59:09
                                             A couple of them were guys that many here wanted - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 08:51:44
                                                  Everyone always wants better players. I'm just stating facts - sprintcar STL - 4/12 08:59:58
                                                       Kim will be painted as the worst coach ever, which he was. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/12 09:23:09
                                                       I have always thought his recruiting was better than - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/12 09:21:22
          Player turnover however was certainly among the - FIJItiger MU - 4/12 08:03:17




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