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A couple of them were guys that many here wanted
Posted on: April 12, 2021 at 08:51:44 CT
wu-tangtiger
MU
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To transfer because they weren’t any good.
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Why are 5 players transferring? Is it by design on Cuonzo's
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alstl
MU
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4/12 07:52:58
Even final 4 teams have transfers. It is an epidemic this
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muwinn
MU
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4/12 15:20:28
CM's player development is poor(nm)
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LamarFrazier
MU
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4/12 15:04:15
Pinson, Pickett and Brown have turned out to be solid. nm
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Spartus
MWSC
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4/12 21:12:41
The real question is
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 09:41:04
LOL(nm)
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LamarFrazier
MU
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4/12 15:04:31
Why is that so funny?(nm)
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DevilsAdvocate
KC
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4/12 16:55:17
That misses the point of some decent guys bolting(nm)
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raskolnikov
MU
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4/12 12:58:03
The why doesn’t really matter
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 13:03:01
If the coach is a problem - that DOES matter
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raskolnikov
MU
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4/12 13:19:45
You hit on the primary point that renders the thoughts of
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longtimereader
MU
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4/12 14:15:22
Mizzou landed 3 in state recruits in 2021 (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 14:20:28
Top 100?
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longtimereader
MU
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4/12 15:06:53
Was that a qualifier in your previous statement?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 15:10:49
I didn't but I would hope after all the conversations about
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longtimereader
MU
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4/12 16:08:52
Mizzou hasn’t really missed on many in the 60-100 range
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 16:14:09
Wow!(nm)
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longtimereader
MU
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4/12 19:02:49
I have a theory on why Mizzou has failed
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 13:29:56
winning cures everything
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cal tiger
MU
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4/12 11:13:40
That is not the question at all. The actual question is how
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 10:44:47
Well you cant stop it for the future, the portal has been
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MU-TULSA
MU
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4/12 19:12:36
I am not convinced it’s a good or a bad thing
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 10:48:41
There were four open roster spots when they left. They did
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 10:51:39
Are you sure of that? (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 10:53:34
You claimed that they did. Are you sure? If four starters
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 11:00:09
Are you sure none of the recruits were considered
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 11:06:51
Keita is a 3* recruit and Durug was already in the
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 11:19:25
Dru and X were also 3 star recruits
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 11:22:46
No P5 player is concerned about a 3* player coming in and
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 11:28:08
Wasn't Kobe ready in year 1?
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/12 11:49:20
6 PPG and 4 RPG is not Earth shattering. About what you
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 12:13:03
The guys that transferred aren’t established (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 12:19:19
X and Watson had been in the program three years, that is
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 12:25:46
X was established
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 12:28:38
Watson played 85 games for this team and averaged 17 min
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 12:33:57
RE: Watson played 85 games for this team and averaged 17 min
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 12:37:45
I said he was established. 17 min per game for three years
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 12:45:16
The real question is to me is what is being done about why
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sprintcar
STL
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4/12 10:05:15
It’s not really that many
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 10:09:38
Four underclassmen leaving at the same time that five
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 10:48:33
I’m not convinced it is a problem
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 10:50:18
If you have a flat tire, that is a problem, regardless of if
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 11:02:08
Why do transfers bother so many here?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 11:08:02
Why are you having such a tough time with this? It is
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 11:23:03
The problem is that some of these guys never should have
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/12 11:56:27
Did the transfers under Haith bother you this much?(nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 11:31:27
At any time in his tenure was Haith down to three players
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 11:33:15
He returned 1 that played after his first season
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 11:36:48
Did his entire bench leave too? You keep trying to spin
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 11:46:56
It’s really the same issue
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 11:56:27
Haith did not create his unbalanced roster, CM did.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 12:27:18
You wanted this bench back?
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BlackSheep
MU
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4/12 11:50:50
No, I didn't want it in this shape in the first place. That
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 12:19:11
Maybe you missed the last 10 years of Mizzou hoops
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 12:32:47
So we are back to 'as long as he is better than our worst
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 12:38:15
You have to overcome the last decade of bad decisions
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 12:45:40
That decade of bad decisions includes hiring, and now
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 13:00:36
Or to keep improving (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 13:01:49
keep improving requires initial improvement. Finishing in
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 13:06:02
Mizzou has been in the bottom half of the SEC
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 13:08:50
He has averaged 8th place, bottom half. This year was 7th
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 13:13:16
That was the initial reason for the freak out
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 12:01:25
The 'freak out' was not about the players, starters or not,
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 12:22:45
Turns out those weren’t the only options (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 12:26:50
Seriously? You think this roster is fixed? A castoff from
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 12:28:57
It’s in a far better spot than it was 3 weeks ago
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 12:35:44
So this is all the better Mizzou can aspire to? Fans like
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 12:50:12
Mizzou has to keep improving
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 12:54:33
Four years, ten games below .500 in conference and an
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 13:02:32
It's odd since the players talked about how much they bonded
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zounami
MU
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4/12 09:01:24
RE: Why are 5 players transferring? Is it by design on Cuonzo's
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HSCoach
STL
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4/12 08:57:54
6 (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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4/12 08:55:17
I'm not sure it's either.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/12 08:39:41
Players have open sports in front of them on a P5 roster and
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:08:44
Could be true. I have heard that the locker room was
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/12 09:33:42
That and he couldn't coach his way out of a paperbag..nm
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tigertix
MU
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4/12 08:38:30
Great thing is that you can have a new team basically.
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Newcatbirdseat
MU
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4/12 08:32:25
RE: Why are 5 players transferring? Is it by design on Cuonzo's
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cal
MU
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4/12 08:10:13
I think the players for the most part tried on defense but
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Tiger Tim
MU
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4/12 16:15:49
Watson is the one who is really curious to me
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/12 08:16:20
In hind site it would have been nice to have given Mark’s
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Tiger Tim
MU
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4/12 16:17:28
“a disaster offensively” could lead us in scoring? Huh?
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MNTIGER
MU
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4/12 10:03:01
True. He's a good perimeter defender.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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4/12 08:42:22
If Watson is leading a P6 team in scoring
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 08:42:21
Agree, I also expect us to be a bad team. But Watson
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/12 08:44:00
Based on what?
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BlackSheep
MU
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4/12 11:48:34
If he gets his shot right he could be
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 08:47:24
He would be reasonably good if he just stopped taking 3s
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/12 08:48:45
Please explain that role
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BlackSheep
MU
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4/12 11:52:14
he has literally no other way of scoring
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 09:03:15
That is all he is left with in MU's offense. I'm talking
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/12 09:10:07
Please explain what are those skill sets
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BlackSheep
MU
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4/12 11:55:37
he has no skill set
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 09:14:28
I bet he ends up a decent scorer elsewhere (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/12 09:18:09
Against midmajor competition? That's not impossible to
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 09:19:07
Like our two transfers that we are supposed to be so
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:25:16
Will Watson perform like Davis or Coleman?
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 09:28:00
You just said he could be successful at the mid-major level
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:33:28
You have trouble with reading comprehension
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 09:34:56
8-10 versus the 13 Coleman had was night and day.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:47:42
Which lineup do you prefer?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 10:03:22
I would prefer a lineup of SEC level talent. Unfortunately
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 10:19:04
Do you know that Mizzou doesn’t have SEC level talent? (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 10:20:21
At this point in time we have ONE player who has performed
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 10:54:21
He’s not a great athlete and a poor ball handler
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 08:50:39
So what does that tell you about where this team is?
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 08:23:40
Watson is not a difference maker
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MizzouGunner
MU
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4/12 08:58:53
Watson would have been a starter from day one next year,
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:09:55
RE: Watson would have been a starter from day one next year,
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Third_Eye
STL
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4/12 10:15:49
there is no world where he would have been a starter(nm)
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 09:16:03
Keep telling yourself that. When he chose to transfer there
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:20:48
Many players were in the pipeline
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 09:27:10
I suspect he would not have but there is a very good chance
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:35:03
Brookshire, Pickett, Keita, Davis, Coleman, Durugordon
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 09:36:35
Gordon is an all-SEC level player yet he was the third best
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:50:19
2 of the players transferring have already played 4 seasons
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/12 08:00:43
Again, at the risk of defending Martin, it’s really only 4
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alwaysright
MU
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4/12 08:00:13
Why were they expected to leave? That doesn't explain
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alstl
MU
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4/12 08:02:51
They left because they are not good..nm
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MizzouGunner
MU
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4/12 08:59:59
Saying your best returning player was expected to leave is
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the808bass
MU
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4/12 08:52:17
Because he thought he was going pro. It’s a simple
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alwaysright
MU
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4/12 10:52:29
When you graduate five seniors and their replacements,
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 08:14:48
They were seniors. They were never part of the plan for
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alwaysright
MU
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4/12 08:05:10
Kim sucking at every aspect of his job is what sent him
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 07:59:55
The players that Kim left CM were vastly superior to what
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 08:08:25
no(nm)
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 08:22:55
Kobe, Pinkett and Durugordon. That was his team
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 08:26:28
That isn't the team that CM will field next year
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 08:28:45
I am comparing the team Kim left CM to the team that CM
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 08:32:43
That isn't the team CM left himself
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 08:44:45
That is the players he had left on his roster at the end of
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 08:51:16
CM isn't leaving. A new coach isn't coming in
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 08:55:01
Kim was probably the worst coach in Mizzou history,
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:05:42
It's just odd you are invisible during the best season the
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 09:09:16
The 'best' seasons in nine years was a seventh place finish
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:14:26
and yet it was the best season in nearly a decade
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 09:15:11
By the time the NFL season was over an I tuned to BB
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:18:05
You are welcome to any opinion you want
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 09:24:14
When it was succeeding? When exactly was that? For three
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:31:15
they were ranked in the top 10 in February(nm)
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/12 09:31:49
Right before they went on to lose 5 of their next 7, all to
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:52:56
No
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/12 08:13:03
First of all, I don't know that we do. Barnett was far
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 08:21:41
Don't quit your day job, Puryear couldn't score in the paint
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Central IL Tiger
MU
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4/12 20:04:06
Barnett as a senior was a good player
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/12 08:27:55
He averaged 12 PPG and 6 rpg his last season under KA.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 08:38:49
That was on a D2 team, stats from that season don't
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/12 08:43:11
WTF? That was his Junior season at Mizzou that he played
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 08:57:09
My opinion only, but MU didn't field a team in
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/12 09:00:29
You have a ton of asinine post, that may be the stupidest.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:19:34
You can pick and choose to fit your agenda all you want but
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sprintcar
STL
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4/12 08:50:13
I have always consistently said that stats from that era
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/12 08:53:47
And you've been consistently wrong.(nm)
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sprintcar
STL
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4/12 08:59:09
A couple of them were guys that many here wanted
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 08:51:44
Everyone always wants better players. I'm just stating facts
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sprintcar
STL
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4/12 08:59:58
Kim will be painted as the worst coach ever, which he was.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/12 09:23:09
I have always thought his recruiting was better than
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/12 09:21:22
Player turnover however was certainly among the
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/12 08:03:17