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Posted on: March 4, 2021 at 15:52:46 CT
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If so, isn't that worth $3+ MILLION per year in a long-term deal?

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Seriously, no other fan base thinks this way. It's absolutely absurd rationale for extending a P5 head coach.

ALL THAT MATTERS is whether he can recruit & coach well enough to win consistently, and periodically compete for a league title or Sweet 16+ run.

"Class acts" are a dime a dozen, and if that's the job criteria then we can get one for a lot less than we're paying Cuonzo (like 98% less — a public school teacher's salary).

To be clear, I'm not suggesting we should fire CM... I'm saying it would be foolish to give him an even more favorable contract based on this season. His recruiting has been abysmal the past 3 cycles and thus the cupboard will be empty. One could argue that he hasn't "built" anything after 4 years given how depleted the roster will be. Cuonzo and his agent both know that, which is why they're desperately trying to leverage this slightly above-average season into a new iron-clad deal. They know Sterk is weak and easily played.

I should also point out that giving the state's second highest paid employee any kind of raise, extension, or buyout increase amid the pandemic, while everyone else is taking pay cuts to mitigate budget shortfalls, would undoubtedly draw criticism and be yet another example of Sterk's poor judgment.

If CM is able to improve recruiting dramatically and put together consecutive winning seasons, *then* he will have earned a raise/extension/buyout increase.

Until then, the status quo is fine.






Edited by zounami at 16:13:38 on 03/04/21
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Would you all agree Martin is a class act?... - zounami MU - 3/4 15:52:46
     CLASS ACT= ZERO BANNERS(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/4 22:57:34
          Thats generally true, but coaches like Jay Wright & Mark Few - zounami MU - 3/5 00:08:23
               You're right. Jay Wright and Mark Few are studs. nm - Spartus MWSC - 3/5 06:42:26
     this guy doesn't think so - TigerFan92 STL - 3/4 22:23:22
          RE: I have a hard time understanding from a distance why he's - pinkman MU - 3/5 00:11:30
               and he's too stubborn to adjust his pitch / strategy (nm) - zounami MU - 3/5 00:16:51
          RE: I have a hard time understanding from a distance why he's - Ernie Webb III - 3/4 22:21:44
               That's such a tired excuse. Very few coaches cheat. Drink is - zounami MU - 3/4 22:30:34
          it's perplexing to say the least (nm) - zounami MU - 3/4 21:57:48
     He needs to be extended 2 or 3 years for recruiting purposes - go tigers MU - 3/4 21:09:12
          He hasn't been able to recruit for the last 3 cycles despite - zounami MU - 3/4 21:14:21
     were you mistreated as a child? - Ace A - 3/4 20:05:09
          bizarre reply (nm) - zounami MU - 3/4 20:53:37
     I like that he’s been our first coach since Suticase to - tiger4real MU - 3/4 18:44:05
          Agreed. Fans who think he doesn't deserve an extension - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 3/4 20:47:29
               btw, Drink is landing sought-after recruits without cheating - zounami MU - 3/4 21:08:15
               Agreed. (nm) - go tigers MU - 3/4 21:07:03
               Social workers are cheap. They don't cost $3 MILLION per yr. - zounami MU - 3/4 20:56:13
          A pseudo-extension in which the buyout remains the same has - zounami MU - 3/4 19:06:24
     when you fire him the next coach will cost more and - Jeff80 MU - 3/4 18:37:57
          Agreed on all accounts. But zounami doesn't want him fired, - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 3/4 20:44:57
               3 years of laziness on the recruiting trail have left the - zounami MU - 3/4 21:12:27
                    kids in Missouri don't even dream of being MU Tigers - Jeff80 MU - 3/4 23:29:03
                         They do if you have the right coach. Drink is proving that. - zounami MU - 3/5 00:05:30
               Agreed. Excellent analysis. (nm) - go tigers MU - 3/4 21:08:16
               We doubled CM's salary at Cal. If he thinks $3 MILLION per - zounami MU - 3/4 21:00:57
          No one's talking about firing him. I clearly stated... - zounami MU - 3/4 19:03:01
          Especially at a school like Mizzou - Gavin Citrus MU - 3/4 18:56:01
               Yeah, look at what happened when we fired Odom... - zounami MU - 3/4 21:02:19
                    RE: Yeah, look at what happened when we fired Odom... - Third_Eye STL - 3/5 07:41:12
                         CM inherited a situation with two 5-star recruits falling - zounami MU - 3/5 15:38:01
                    We'll see - Gavin Citrus MU - 3/5 06:04:10
                    football never came close to rock bottom like basketball - Jeff80 MU - 3/4 23:33:32
               RE:Next coach will get millions guaranteed team success not(nm) - oldtgr MU - 3/4 20:24:36
     2 tourneys in 4 years following a ****astrophe - Gavin Citrus MU - 3/4 18:27:54
          Recruiting and the program's future outlook is the problem. - zounami MU - 3/4 19:05:15
               RE: Will the next coach guarantee success?(nm) - oldtgr MU - 3/4 20:27:27
               Who says they are panicking? He's trying to get a new - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 3/4 20:27:22
                    especially when they know next season will be a disaster due - zounami MU - 3/4 21:04:24
     You sure sseem upset by last night's win(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 3/4 16:50:33
          No, I was ecstatic when Dru sealed the W... - zounami MU - 3/4 17:03:32
               Nah you're a KU fan * - LamarFrazier MU - 3/4 17:11:23
     Ok. But a class act does not a recruiter make.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 3/4 16:38:17
          nor does it warrant a $3M+ salary (nm) - zounami MU - 3/4 16:48:10
     RE: Would you all agree Martin is a class act?... - THINKINGTIGER MU - 3/4 16:32:03
          The market rate for a "class act" is about 1% of CM's salary - zounami MU - 3/4 16:47:11
     Offer him...nothing and then - Mizzou1990 MU - 3/4 16:29:28
          True. CM only came here because we doubled his salary at Cal - zounami MU - 3/4 16:46:20
               So many issues with this post. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 3/4 20:30:16
                    wrong (nm) - zounami MU - 3/4 21:15:23
                    Agreed. (nm) - go tigers MU - 3/4 21:10:49
                    it's either laziness or incompetence... - zounami MU - 3/4 21:06:07
               He came here because there was a good chance with MPJ - Uncle John MU - 3/4 16:48:05
                    Oh, so it wasn't the iron-clad contract from Sterk? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/4 16:48:52
                         Anyone was going to get that so why wouldn't Cuonzo - Uncle John MU - 3/4 19:07:44
                              That's not true. His predecessor got half that amount... - zounami MU - 3/4 19:23:42
                                   His predecessor wasn't in that league to coach the - Uncle John MU - 3/4 19:49:57
     God only knows what Sterk will do, but let's hope he - MU-TULSA MU - 3/4 16:04:37
          if we can extend him but have a favorable buy out i see - TigerA MU - 3/4 16:15:34
               so in other words, a fake extension... one that has no teeth - zounami MU - 3/4 16:21:59
                    no. it has teeth. if he performs like he can he gets the - TigerA MU - 3/4 16:23:04
                         if he's performant then he would get the extension anyway... - zounami MU - 3/4 21:15:29
                         Agreed. (nm) - go tigers MU - 3/4 21:11:59
                              Agreed(nm) - Genco98 MU - 3/5 12:24:23
                         Agree with this. - quicksand MU - 3/4 17:17:07
                         wrong (nm) - zounami MU - 3/4 16:28:35
               this(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 3/4 16:16:39
          not extending him will seriously impact the 2022 class(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 3/4 16:10:20
               That's the classic "Agent's Fallacy" (nm) - zounami MU - 3/4 21:15:35
               Agreed. (nm) - go tigers MU - 3/4 21:12:27
               ^^This guy gets it.^^ - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 3/4 20:31:34
               he has 4 years remaining, correct? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/4 16:10:44
                    3 years, which means 2 years when the '22 class gets here - MizzouAstro MU - 3/4 16:15:28
                         That's the classic "Agent's Fallacy" (nm) - zounami MU - 3/4 21:15:42
                              "He needs at least 6 years remaining or he won't be able to - zounami MU - 3/4 21:19:44
                         Agreed. (nm) - go tigers MU - 3/4 21:13:14
                         2 years left on a contract is plenty to renew, Haith was - MU-TULSA MU - 3/4 17:10:20
                         it was originally 7 and he got a 1-year auto-extension for - zounami MU - 3/4 16:21:03
                              The way I understand it is it's a 7 year deal - Missiurifarmboy MU - 3/4 16:25:36
                              as wutang pointed out, it actually just autoextended - MizzouAstro MU - 3/4 16:23:55
                                   Practically speaking, it's the same thing. You could give - zounami MU - 3/4 16:37:27
     I’d rather have a jackass who gets 5 and 4 stars (nm) - ZouMiz STL - 3/4 15:58:36
          I disagree. But also, you act as though jackasses who sign - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 3/4 20:35:05
               Then you're a loser. It's that simple. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/4 21:16:18
          i agree. i don't want a Dave Bliss type but I'd take an - TigerA MU - 3/4 15:59:25
               absolutely (nm) - zounami MU - 3/4 16:02:33




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