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Posted on: March 26, 2020 at 15:30:57 CT
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I look at the all time team stats, and all conference and All American honors.

The best setter in Missouri history is Lindsey Hunter. She is #1 in assists in program history, Kreklow is #2, about 700 assists behind.

Both players were 1st team AAs their senior years. That’s a wash. But Kreklow never even made AA honorable mention her first 3 years here, and there are like 50 players to get honorable mention after the first 3 teams. Hunter was a 2nd team AA her junior year.

Yes, Kreklow was POY in the SEC her senior year. That’s all she has over Hunter. Hunter owns all the other metrics.

Comparing Kreklow to Henning is even a stronger case. They were even in the same class of 2010-2013. They both played 2 years in the Big 12 and 2 years in the SEC.

Kreklow was first team all conference exactly 1 time in her career, her senior year. Henning was first team all conference 3 times, each time a unanimous pick.

Kreklow as mentioned was first team AA her senior season and never even made honorable mention AA her other 3 years. Henning was a 3 time AA. The real team, not honorable mention. She was 3rd team AA her sophomore and junior seasons and 1st team AA her senior season. No stats to compare as they played different positions. But Henning is #1 all time at Mizzou in kills and points.

Don’t get me wrong, Kreklow was a great player, and had a great senior year where she made 1st team AA after never even being an honorable mention in her career before then. And she has that conference POY award. I’m not saying she doesn’t deserve to be #29 on Matters list. I’m saying if she is #29, then at least Hunter and Henning need to be on the team too, ahead of Kreklow. Because by the metrics and awards they were clearly better than her.

Edited by bluetiger_ at 15:31:41 on 03/26/20
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Update on Matters top 30 Mizzou athletes... - bluetiger_ MU - 3/26 11:17:35
     I did not see anyone nail the gymnast pick. (nm) - DrViagra MU - 3/30 22:20:06
     Cox has to be first, but chicks are inferior athletes to men - Beakerbasher KC - 3/27 17:23:54
          Cox never won a Hodge but askren did. Cox is a beast - lqf2b8 MU - 3/30 10:25:46
               dude....(nm) - dangertim MU - 3/30 10:26:42
          Agreed, can't handle the load that men can(nm) - dangertim MU - 3/30 10:21:16
          Probably, but they’re better at pretty much everything else(nm) - *M* KC - 3/27 19:54:02
               except virtue signaling(nm) - dangertim MU - 3/30 10:21:47
               Except driving. Nm - BandG MU - 3/28 10:28:41
               lol(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 3/28 07:10:50
     Well first Aruther Johnson was BB not FB, but - MU-TULSA MU - 3/27 07:25:26
          I have been super-impressed with the quality of 24-30. - DrViagra MU - 3/27 09:50:35
               D-line Zou list is cut down to manage: - DrViagra MU - 3/31 18:40:02
               I figured as much, just hate putting numbers to who - MU-TULSA MU - 3/27 13:58:18
     You have several errors in the sports of those athletes. - DrViagra MU - 3/26 21:50:58
          Ok... - bluetiger_ MU - 3/26 22:26:19
               Wrong, wrong, and wrong. - DrViagra MU - 3/26 22:51:18
     Ridiculous post. Your top 4 is a joke. - DrViagra MU - 3/26 20:36:23
          You won’t find many Mizzou sports fans... - bluetiger_ MU - 3/26 22:35:01
               Daniel has to be higher than sophie. Sophie was great. Nm - yy4u MU - 3/27 12:27:59
                    Sophie barely improved. More turnovers than assists. - DrViagra MU - 3/27 16:53:20
               That is incorrect. (nm) - DrViagra MU - 3/26 22:53:26
     technically Gage is FB/BB (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 3/26 16:08:53
     I expect Chase Daniel will be in the top two. - zodiac6 JC - 3/26 15:41:24
          Askren there too, way at the top. And Karissa Schweizer (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 3/26 16:09:56
               Ben Askren, Max Scherzer. - DrViagra MU - 3/26 21:31:52
                    If only Max Askren had been a 4x All-American - doughboy MU - 3/27 10:14:34
                         Mizzou Curse. Oh so close. Flea-kicker memories. (nm) - DrViagra MU - 3/27 10:26:04
          I’ll take that bet... - bluetiger_ MU - 3/26 16:05:47
               Were this list about subjective success, I'd agree. - zodiac6 JC - 3/26 17:10:39
               you're gonna regret (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 3/26 17:01:27
                    I'm the best that's ever been (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 3/26 17:01:41
                         Johnny, rosin up your bow and play your fiddle hard (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 3/26 17:02:37
                              'Cause hell's broke loose in Georgia (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 3/26 17:03:02
                                   and the Devil deals the cards (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 3/26 17:03:13
     For volleyball, Lisa Henning was an all american and - SB in KC MU - 3/26 11:46:04
          Thanks, meant to mention Henning too... - bluetiger_ MU - 3/26 12:18:40
               For me volleyball would be..... - SB in KC MU - 3/26 17:20:48
               I think you sell Molly a little short. I didn't watch a lot - *M* KC - 3/26 13:28:40
                    Here is why I disagree... - bluetiger_ MU - 3/26 15:30:57
                         You may be right. Its certainly debatable - *M* KC - 3/26 16:16:23
          RE: For volleyball, Lisa Henning was an all american and - BruceInLA MU - 3/26 12:12:55
               Here are some stats for softball all time... - bluetiger_ MU - 3/26 12:53:07
               I have the following in my first softball tier... - bluetiger_ MU - 3/26 12:38:55
                    6 QBs. - DrViagra MU - 3/26 20:56:34
                         Who are the 6 QBs who are making the top 30... - bluetiger_ MU - 3/26 22:39:52
                              You have lost a lot of respect. Do you watch football? - DrViagra MU - 3/26 22:59:40
                                   jones is too early - gmmm98 MU - 3/27 06:16:04
                                        Corby at #15, Franklin at #14. (nm) - DrViagra MU - 4/8 21:49:27
                                        Blaine Gabbert: 1st round draft pick, NFL starter - DrViagra MU - 3/27 06:38:52
                                             I wouldn't be surprised if Gabbert/Franklin miss the cut. - zodiac6 JC - 3/27 15:22:46
                                                  Yeah, I went through the remaining spots available above. - DrViagra MU - 3/27 16:43:20
                                        Corby matches Matter’s beginning perfectly(nm) - DrViagra MU - 3/27 06:30:09




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