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RE: Want to know what is actually shameful?

Posted on: January 18, 2019 at 15:09:35 CT
gaber c. MU
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So the boat rides and summer jobs set up through out of state boosters and god knows what else weren't impermissible benefits? Haith obviously learned nothing from not being allowed to coach the first five games of one his Mizzou seasons.
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     Kim did inherit a much bigger problem than many will - alwaysright MU - 1/19 09:55:45
          Pretty fair analysis (nm) - WildCard MU - 1/19 12:51:05
     You hit the nail on the head. (nm) - go tigers MU - 1/18 22:16:36
     And almost immediately cratered it. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 1/18 18:28:06
          Haith had already cratered it, both on and off the court. (nm) - go tigers MU - 1/18 22:18:26
     So he was like a coach/enema then? - ERB KC - 1/18 15:48:03
     See what's happening gaber? (nm) - eatatjoes MU - 1/18 14:40:48
          RE: See what's happening gaber? (nm) - gaber c. MU - 1/18 14:57:11
               I understand, just don't see the need for folks - eatatjoes MU - 1/18 15:00:48
          Want to know what is actually shameful? - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 14:47:01
               RE: Want to know what is actually shameful? - gaber c. MU - 1/18 15:09:35
                    Compliance failures, that had nothing to do with - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 15:17:09
                         Or, maybe, just the tip of the iceberg.(nm) - gaber c. MU - 1/18 15:19:47
                              they tried extensively to report every possible violation - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 15:20:59
                                   Seems like a lot of mind-reading without proof or... - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 16:37:40
               Which is why I wouldn't say that - eatatjoes MU - 1/18 14:49:44
                    I do. But I will say that I think it was shameful that - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 15:00:16
                         What conduct are you referring to? (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 16:04:51
     Come on, that has been entirely debunked countless times - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 14:35:49
          He didn't walk into a corrupt/dysfunctional situation? (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 14:49:01
               No more so than almost any other new hire at the P5 level. - StaleyTiger MU - 1/18 15:46:38
                    I don't think this is right. Kim took over a team that lost - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 16:01:41
                         Lie much? - StaleyTiger MU - 1/18 16:07:13
                              We had nothing for 2014-15... and anyone pretending - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 16:10:21
                                   Like I said, almost every new coach faces the same scenario. - StaleyTiger MU - 1/18 16:14:35
                                        All Caps just means you've lost the debate. You know - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 16:20:06
                                        The roster he inherited was behind only - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 16:15:55
                                             Absurdly stupid. He inherited nothing. The lies from - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 16:21:40
                                                  Refer to: - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 16:35:48
                                                       Absurdity. Nobody leaves a power conference job at a... - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 16:41:11
                                                            Ok. But that isn't really what happened - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 18:21:25
                                                                 Doesn't make sense - any of it - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 18:41:21
               No. He retroactively created one to attempt to - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 15:02:24
                    So this true son former player and assistant coach, and - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 15:35:17
                         Agree, based on his actions (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 16:14:56
                              Seems vague. Not even sure what that means (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 16:34:48
          Iā€™m still confused - WildCard MU - 1/18 14:41:34
     No program needs a cleansing of 10 or fewer wins for 3 - StaleyTiger MU - 1/18 14:21:15
          Kim damaged our program more greatly than Bliss did Baylor(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 14:37:58
               In terms of drop, I agree with that. - StaleyTiger MU - 1/18 16:01:34
          Exhibit A (nm) - eatatjoes MU - 1/18 14:26:46
     KA is a very good DII coach(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 1/18 13:58:06
     I agree 100%, but unfortunately many will look at this as a - eatatjoes MU - 1/18 13:56:14
          His arse should have been ran out of state like the Mormons(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 1/18 14:31:28
          He should have never taken a job he clearly knew he was - StaleyTiger MU - 1/18 14:24:51
               This might be the stupidest take anyone has ever had - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 16:06:33
               RE: He should have never taken a job he clearly knew he was - hondo MU - 1/18 14:26:17
                    That lie has been debunked. Ben Howland was waiting for a - StaleyTiger MU - 1/18 14:30:32
                         RE: That lie has been debunked. Ben Howland was waiting for a - hondo MU - 1/18 14:32:39
                              Kim absolutely deserved the opportunity to - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 14:40:48
                                   RE: Kim absolutely deserved the opportunity to - hondo MU - 1/18 16:56:18
                                        Right, but we are talking about Kim. That obviously - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 18:22:46
                                   Absolutely silly... you are hallucinating badly (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 1/18 16:07:08
                              The baggage of being a proven winner?(nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 1/18 14:34:02
                                   Yes. Either that or - WildCard MU - 1/18 14:43:01
                                        He was fired because he only won 25 games after a couple of - StaleyTiger MU - 1/18 15:51:23
                                   Pretty easy. Mizzou didn't want to draw anymore NCAA - sprintcar STL - 1/18 14:42:28
                                        Ben Howland has never had any run-ins with the NCAA. - StaleyTiger MU - 1/18 15:41:21
                                        IMO his job was to smooth over as best he could - gaber c. MU - 1/18 15:17:00
                                             Not a very good job of that then - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 15:19:20
                                                  Awfully sad that you feel the need to resort to outright - gaber c. MU - 1/18 15:23:01
                                        They gave him a raise/promotion and a multiyear - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 14:44:34
          RE: I agree 100%, but unfortunately many will look at this as a - hondo MU - 1/18 14:17:09
          One thing to add. KA took on the job for a major pay raise - Diamond Dave MU - 1/18 13:58:39
               ā€œ....he deserves what he gets....ā€ LOL You think - MNTIGER MU - 1/18 14:42:43
                    We can hope (nm) - eatatjoes MU - 1/18 14:53:55
               Not really. What good does it do? - eatatjoes MU - 1/18 14:20:25
                    Like it or not it's now part of MU's basketball history and - tigersfan MU - 1/18 14:44:13
                         Wrong, it's different when the guy in question has - eatatjoes MU - 1/18 14:52:56




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