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RE: you forgot to mention what Illinois has done lately on
Posted on: August 19, 2018 at 09:35:47 CT
Big Ray 2
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They’ve beaten mizu 5 straight and 14 of the last 20.
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Few tidbits from Matter's recent chat
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 08:48:50
RE: Few tidbits from Matter's recent chat
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Dylan
MU
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8/17 21:22:46
RE: Few tidbits from Matter's recent chat
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/17 09:46:20
so we are going to have pg problems again this year it seems
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NWMizzouFan
MU
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8/17 09:12:01
Jordan Geist will have a big year. (nm)
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mizzoutiger91
MU
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8/17 12:19:55
Looks to be a problem we will have to mitigate around
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 09:17:30
It won't be an emerging trend. CM knows the game well
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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8/17 10:54:00
We were a poor ball handling team last year
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CJsLover
MU
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8/17 15:07:06
Of all that I could say and have said on this you put
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 14:31:39
They will miss them both big time no doubt
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 14:59:52
I do think that'll be one of the keys to the entire season.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:20:30
I meant this to go under tj (nm)
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 15:00:55
I think that's fair.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 14:38:07
Geist just needs to stay healthy. He will play the position
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Uncle John
MU
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8/17 14:34:48
One of the twin towers will be because he can make plays
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 15:04:01
Most of his fouls were just dumb fouls. I expect him to
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Uncle John
MU
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8/17 15:26:38
I do too
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 15:35:11
But that to an extent would be the problem
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 12:16:05
"Positionless"
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 14:03:20
Well put..
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 14:38:51
Get a room bj (nm)
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lqf2b8
MU
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8/17 14:06:10
RE: Get a room bj (nm)
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RNcaud
MU
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8/17 14:21:33
Why are you here?
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 14:27:00
RE: Why are you here?
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RNcaud
MU
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8/17 22:15:30
You have issues, dude.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/18 08:21:06
RE: You have issues, dude.
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RNcaud
MU
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8/18 16:02:20
you forgot to mention what Illinois has done lately on
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lqf2b8
MU
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8/17 15:15:42
RE: you forgot to mention what Illinois has done lately on
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Big Ray 2
U
S
A
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8/19 09:35:47
Speaking of trolls. Goodness. (nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:17:57
still skirting around Illinois issues by the way
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lqf2b8
MU
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8/17 15:23:31
What issues?
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:24:41
criminally squandering talent
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lqf2b8
MU
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8/17 15:26:03
Okay, cool stuff.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:44:50
calm down tj
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lqf2b8
MU
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8/17 15:46:49
I'm completely calm.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:48:56
calm down
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lqf2b8
MU
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8/17 15:50:25
Cool. Let me know if you ever want to actually discuss
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:59:22
When you calm down I might talk to you
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lqf2b8
MU
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8/17 18:29:12
RE: Speaking of trolls. Goodness. (nm)
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lqf2b8
MU
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8/17 15:21:52
Long term ball handling will be good
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 11:24:45
Pickett and ballhandling
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 13:58:02
The term for Pickett has been secondary ball handler
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 14:50:04
The number one job of the piont guard is to get the ball
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alwaysright
MU
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8/20 06:51:54
Good point. Playmaking is entirely different(nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:21:50
Mizzou is a bubble type team because of the guards
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 14:12:18
Not guards but a guard.
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 15:07:56
All-Conference PGs under CM?
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 14:27:58
did Richardson play PG before or after Cuonzo
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 14:49:25
I'd give CM credit for JR but not Charlie.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:10:49
Moore was a double figure scorer as a freshman
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 15:13:43
The hyperbole is a bit much here.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:17:20
He was a freshman forced to be the go to player
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 15:27:47
Yes, and none of that means a coach who had him for
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:45:21
Didn’t claim that Cuonzo was responsible
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 15:47:25
I asked about All Conference PG's under CM.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:52:31
I extrapolated it to good guards that have played
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 16:22:50
Okay but that wasn't what I asked.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 16:26:02
I don't think it's that confusing
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Domino
MU
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8/17 14:10:54
I am not confused by the decisions.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 14:24:46
I think moving forward it's more Dru Smith then Mark Smith
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 15:14:25
Dru Smith had a higher TO rate than Geist last season
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 15:33:36
So, a PG who has a higher TO rate than Geist but has more
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:47:04
You say that as if it make Giest seem better for what he
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 15:38:47
I would take
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 15:41:01
Who wouldn't?? They were not a part of this discussion as
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 15:48:43
I don’t really love Geist
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 16:04:24
Obviously you, GD, Matter and some others also don't
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 16:13:54
Roberts didn’t leave in the summer
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 14:51:50
The "you aren't going to play" conversation which led
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:02:25
Which I think Cuonzo expected
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Domino
MU
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8/17 14:55:46
Agree, Harris is the one he blew it on
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 14:59:57
While I agree, let's not act like this behavior is unique to
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 15:20:14
Martin did an A+ job in year one all things considered
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 15:26:35
I think he corrected it just not for this year.
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 15:46:33
Agree. Wish he had that capacity to do so (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 16:08:37
Harris wasn’t as good as you think he was
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 15:08:46
There's no need to do that. It's completely unnecessary.
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 15:24:45
I was never worried about his attitude
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 17:00:24
Harris's PG ceiling is higher than Geist and Phillips and
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:21:28
No one is arguing that Harris has a lower ceiling
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 15:30:52
Made more mistakes?
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:46:08
That's the part he never wants to address
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 15:54:50
RE: That's the part he never wants to address
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:58:52
All the PG eggs weren’t on Geist
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 17:04:17
He pushed Roberts out. He refused to work with BH and
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 17:09:23
be interesting to know what happened with Lathon
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 20:01:37
This is where your Purdue connection comes in
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 16:04:26
Our 2, 3, and 4 were all elite shooters for their positions
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 15:12:31
The primary ball handler needs to be a shooting threat
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 15:25:28
RE: The primary ball handler needs to be a shooting threat
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 15:28:33
basketball has changed a lot since then
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 15:35:18
Really, so TJ Ford wouldn't be effective now because he
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 15:38:37
No Ford wouldn’t be the player if they now
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 15:43:59
So, would you add TJ Ford or Taylor to this team?(nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:55:47
If your playing that game I would take Jason Kidd (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 16:27:01
You didn't answer the question.(nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 16:28:10
I told you who I would add
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 16:57:00
TJ Ford or Taylor? Simple question.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 17:06:01
Kidd i extrapolated on your question
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 17:14:35
No, you avoided it because it disproves your larger point.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 17:16:44
The best example in the game today is Duke
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 17:56:41
Lol, we don't agree
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Domino
MU
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8/17 15:06:19
Oh, I thought you were saying losing Harris was the
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 15:10:24
Keep on man
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Domino
MU
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8/17 15:12:02
That's your prerogative
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Domino
MU
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8/17 14:32:44
True. I expect Dru to be the starter.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 14:38:32
I think he must still think Mark is a pg. He will make a
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Uncle John
MU
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8/17 14:37:03
RE: I think he must still think Mark is a pg. He will make a
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 14:38:51
Mark has been on the record talking about how is role will
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Domino
MU
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8/17 14:43:42
RE: Mark has been on the record talking about how is role will
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 14:46:39
I believe he does. I don't buy that part of the Illinois
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Uncle John
MU
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8/17 14:41:40
I wouldn't expect you to.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 14:45:39
Something got lost in communication
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Domino
MU
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8/17 14:51:42
Watts is less of a PG than Smith
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/18 12:25:03
RE: Something got lost in communication
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 14:58:54
Whatever the case none of that matters moving forward
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 16:09:04
Somewhere a disconnect happened
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Domino
MU
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8/17 15:10:24
That doesn't jive with what actually happened.
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 15:15:11
We saw something similar happen with JW3
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 15:02:39
LMAO!!
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longtimereader
MU
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8/17 16:17:06
I actually laughed too
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tjwheeler
UI
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8/17 16:28:58
I can't resist. Glad they made a bad hire (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 16:20:41
Ball handling isn't the same thing as playing pg (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 12:20:12
depends on the system you run
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 12:53:17
I fear you may be right. I don't think most
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 12:58:32
Mizzou would be better with Ramey
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 13:53:50
will this be strike 2
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Jeff85
MU
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8/17 09:20:33
Its the same issue, unless you are counting
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/17 10:31:45
Geist will be the main guy there
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 09:13:56
what are your expectations
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Jeff85
MU
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8/17 09:15:32
similar to what we saw last year, maybe a little
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 09:20:42
will that level of performance hold this team back
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Jeff85
MU
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8/17 09:22:15
It could, I think the performance of the other top 5
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 09:30:04
I say break in the new guys earlier than planned and
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GA Tiger
MU
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8/17 09:45:58
Both will happen.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/17 09:56:36
CM is paid to win games
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Jeff85
MU
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8/17 09:49:31