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You were much more eloquent than I can be.

Posted on: December 5, 2017 at 22:48:05 CT
limenats MU
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I believe in religious freedom and I believe no one can make that baker craft a cake for a gay couple against his religious beliefs.

Since the law in Colorado is not on his side, his choice is to not make wedding cakes, get out of the bakery business completely, just make the damn cake, or take it to the supreme court.

He chose rightly according to his beliefs. His bakery may go out of business but he'll start a new line of work with a clear conscience that he did right by his god.
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Please take four minutes to watch the video - limenats MU - 12/5 21:21:44
     If you make a Muslim paint Mohamed riding a donkey this woul - TigerFan92 MU - 12/6 10:43:54
     Should a musician be forbidden from refusing to perform - Spanky KU - 12/5 22:43:20
          What sort of religious beliefs would demand that? - limenats MU - 12/5 22:50:10
               The religious folks are the ones being demanded of. - ummmm MU - 12/6 08:09:41
               Then the case would be even stronger that they should - JeffB MU - 12/5 23:08:13
               personal beliefs... religious or not - Spanky KU - 12/5 22:56:49
                    Hopefully neither one of us ends up in the ER tonight with - limenats MU - 12/5 23:00:43
                         ER docs are employees of the hospital, I believe - Spanky KU - 12/5 23:26:06
                         I guess that's why when Ronald Reagan was shot he asked - JeffB MU - 12/5 23:10:07
          Good points. (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/5 22:47:26
     Awww poor guy - mizzoumurfkc MU - 12/5 22:25:27
          RE: Awww poor guy - JeffB MU - 12/5 22:31:09
               My inclination is to side with the gay couple. - limenats MU - 12/5 22:41:21
                    This might be tough to swallow. - ummmm MU - 12/6 08:10:44
                    You are stating what you believe, but the challenge is to - JeffB MU - 12/5 22:42:59
                         You were much more eloquent than I can be. - limenats MU - 12/5 22:48:05
                              A fair try, but I was thinking more along the lines of tryin - JeffB MU - 12/5 22:51:21
                                   That gets really tough for me. - limenats MU - 12/5 22:53:58
                                        I think you're feeling what 4TigersinMichigan was feeling... - JeffB MU - 12/5 23:00:23
                                             I at least made an effort. - limenats MU - 12/5 23:01:19
                                                  Yes, but probably half heartedly so. (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/5 23:02:21
     Don’t care - Ferg STL - 12/5 22:11:39
          Do you live in Missouri? - limenats MU - 12/5 22:20:59
               no I live in CA - Ferg STL - 12/5 22:24:15
                    When was the last time you felt discriminated against? - limenats MU - 12/5 22:25:35
                         Lol - Ferg STL - 12/5 22:28:49
                              You are quick to discount discrimation. - limenats MU - 12/5 22:51:27
                                   I’ve experienced multiple micro aggressions today - Ferg STL - 12/5 23:07:20
                                        Well done. - limenats MU - 12/5 23:18:58
               Just because you can - meatiger MU - 12/5 22:22:19
                    When was the last time you felt discrimated against? - limenats MU - 12/5 22:24:22
                         i have been discriminated against in the past - meatiger MU - 12/5 22:25:32
                              Can you provide the most recent example where you felt - limenats MU - 12/5 22:26:11
                                   no thanks - meatiger MU - 12/5 22:27:28
                                        That must be nice. - limenats MU - 12/5 22:29:11
                                             what must be nice - meatiger MU - 12/5 22:31:57
                                                  Because you refuse to share your personal stories, - limenats MU - 12/5 22:36:33
                                                       huh???!!???(nm) - meatiger MU - 12/5 22:37:23
                                                            I know right. Makes about as much sense as refusing to make - limenats MU - 12/5 22:38:51
                                                                 I have said before - meatiger MU - 12/5 22:40:59
                                                                 RE: I know right. Makes about as much sense as refusing to make - JeffB MU - 12/5 22:40:28
                                                                      RE: I know right. Makes about as much sense as refusing to make - limenats MU - 12/5 22:42:10
                                                                           RE: I know right. Makes about as much sense as refusing to make - JeffB MU - 12/5 22:43:50
     Like I said this morning, this is the most - GA Tiger MU - 12/5 21:42:47
          From a legal standpoint, it is not middle of the road at all - meatiger MU - 12/5 22:21:00
          To make it analogous you would need to modify it a bit... - JeffB MU - 12/5 21:51:50
               Oh bullshlt. Answer the damn simple question.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/5 21:52:51
                    I think I misunderstood your question. It sounded to me like - JeffB MU - 12/5 22:11:15
                         Good answer.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/6 08:06:33
                    Jeff is spot on if you want the same scenario - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/5 21:56:42
                         maybe he's more accepting of people than you guys - TheShoe STL - 12/5 22:09:57
                              Let’s stick to the topic at hand - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/5 22:10:58
                                   okay fine - TheShoe STL - 12/5 22:12:49
                                        Don’t get snitty - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/5 22:13:58
                                             RE: Don’t get snitty - TheShoe STL - 12/5 22:24:18
          There is no inconsistency - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/5 21:44:28
               He is a bigot - meatiger MU - 12/5 22:33:14
               Should he have to serve them in his restaurant or not? - GA Tiger MU - 12/5 21:52:20
                    That’s the point. He is not refusing to serve them - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/5 21:55:24
                         Yet, you still ignore my question.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/6 08:07:51
     'Those who want to engage in homosexual acts' should not - JeffB MU - 12/5 21:32:58
          The challenge was to take the opposing view. - limenats MU - 12/5 21:37:11
               I thought you meant take the other side from you or - JeffB MU - 12/5 21:39:19
                    Try putting it in your own words. - limenats MU - 12/5 21:40:43
                         ok, whatever. - JeffB MU - 12/5 21:47:56
                              In my opinion, - limenats MU - 12/5 21:50:25
     I watched it. There is no argument for the other side - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/5 21:31:52
          You can't resist - meatiger MU - 12/5 22:17:41
               What was bigoted? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/5 22:20:22
                    RE: What was bigoted? - meatiger MU - 12/5 22:24:10
          As a gay man, I agree. It's a mode of self defense - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 21:40:57
               But....many here would swear you CHOSE that condition. - GA Tiger MU - 12/5 21:45:11
                    They would be ignorant....and wrong (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 21:46:23
          Link - limenats MU - 12/5 21:38:05
               OK - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/5 21:42:18
                    It must be difficult to understand others when you are - limenats MU - 12/5 22:04:34
                         I totally agree with you about not always being right - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/5 22:09:05
                              Fuel for your mind. - limenats MU - 12/5 22:21:49
                              I'd like to see you honestly attempt to articulate an - limenats MU - 12/5 22:14:26
                                   I can’t in his instance - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/5 22:16:06
          You were never cool enough to understand SNL. - Toger STL - 12/5 21:35:20
               Notice you avoided the topic of gayness - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/5 21:36:49
                    No, I won't go out with you.(nm) - Toger STL - 12/5 21:38:24
                         There are a few gays on this board, who would - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 21:42:00




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