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Insecurity makes one do silly things

Posted on: July 9, 2012 at 16:48:13 CT
FIJItiger MU
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MU was awarded titles for 2 of those seasons: 1920-21 and 1921-22. They were independantly selected as the nation's top team by both Premo and Porretta in their polls.

Probably a better indication of the strength of each team in 1921-22 comes from Allen himself in his autobiography in which he describes what he considered a huge upset:

“We were hoping and planning for breaks which might turn our misfortunes into a startling victorious upset…The Missourians had not lost a game. Kansas was not conceded a chance by well-informed dopesters. The Missouri Tigers were big and powerful. The Kansas Jayhawkers were shorter and lighter. They had a great outfit and really looked like much the better team.”

It was ku’s first Mo Valley title since 1915, it was MU’s 4th in the prior 5 years. The two teams split the head to head contests by an equal margin of 10 points, the Tigers lone loss by far the season low in output in terms of points. MU had defeated ku in 20 of the prior 24 meetings. Simply speaking, considering the ku team superior is revisionist and not the way it was actually seen at the time.

The Helms title was actually awarded to them 21 years later by the Helms Bakery Company by a former semi-pro baseball player and sports collector named Bill Schroeder. Schroeder picked only 1 team for each season and gave no support or justification for his selection.
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     RE: Man, talk about ‘historians’ rewriting history - buzzcut KU - 7/9 23:12:34
          Oh, you mean he clearly lays out the premise and - FIJItiger MU - 7/10 06:35:14
          RE: Man, talk about ‘historians’ rewriting history - buzzcut KU - 7/9 23:47:32
               I think you may be understating it a bit - FIJItiger MU - 7/10 06:49:04
                    LOL! We've gotten away with 10 times worse. I hope.... - Pause UK - 7/10 09:35:03
                         First off, I won't get squashed because its easily - FIJItiger MU - 7/10 09:49:43
                              Lets just say, you've been warned. (nm) - Pause UK - 7/10 10:20:21
                                   I'm right here anytime anyone wants to exchange thoughts(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/10 10:26:01
          GO AWAY (nm) - Columbia Born Tiger MU - 7/9 23:13:40
     I see they don't teach US history in Missouri schools - AlexJ KU - 7/9 17:31:11
          Wow, those are interesting facts that completely disprove - BadAsh SEC - 7/10 09:32:46
          GO AWAY (nm) - Columbia Born Tiger MU - 7/9 23:13:49
          They do, just not the revisionist tripe that your cohorts - Bobk MU - 7/9 19:03:40
          Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Now that's funny. - hangman MU - 7/9 17:50:21
          They don't teach science in Kansas schools. - catbirdseat SEC - 7/9 17:33:51
               Pfff - AlexJ KU - 7/9 17:36:08
                    GO AWAY (nm) - Columbia Born Tiger MU - 7/9 23:13:56
                    50's? Try last decade. (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/9 17:45:35
                         RE: 50's? Try last decade. (nm) - AlexJ KU - 7/9 17:47:53
                              Because 2007 was so long ago (edit) - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/10 09:37:28
                              GO AWAY (nm) - Columbia Born Tiger MU - 7/9 23:14:04
                              Using history on a debate about history what an idiot right? - mzu-fan2 MU - 7/9 19:56:03
     The Kansas approach to propaganda was shaped by civil war - Knucklehead MU - 7/9 17:29:28
     This from an MU fan who says MU has..... - Birdland KU - 7/9 16:15:25
          When you know he is right, deflect...pathetic.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 7/9 19:15:29
          Have a good night. - tjwheeler UI - 7/9 17:59:35
               I didn't claim they were the same - FIJItiger MU - 7/9 20:18:34
                    Okay, because they're not the same. - tjwheeler UI - 7/10 14:26:35
          Roll tide (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/9 17:45:02
          Nice deflection, try telling us where he's wrong? - Mo Texan MU - 7/9 16:56:15
          Coward...why are you on a SEC board. Go bug someone in - catbirdseat SEC - 7/9 16:40:52
          Anyone who refuses to play thier rival and then comes on - CG-the man MU - 7/9 16:36:49
          Does the Helms Foundation give out conf. titles too? - The New Guy MU - 7/9 16:28:12
               ku claims 2 Helms Titles on their I-70 exit signs - Bobk MU - 7/9 16:36:38
                    Insecurity makes one do silly things - FIJItiger MU - 7/9 16:48:13
          Sorry, should have been 17 not 16 - FIJItiger MU - 7/9 16:23:20
          GO AWAY (nm) - Columbia Born Tiger MU - 7/9 16:19:17
          So you don't refute anything he said - MizzouAstro MU - 7/9 16:18:01




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