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RE: then why don't you make the rational, historically sound

Posted on: July 4, 2012 at 16:24:33 CT
*M* KC
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Read Bruce's "the new testament documents", Bingham"s " history of the new testament, " McDowell"/s "evidence that demands a verdict, or Strobel's "the case for Christ" or "the case for faith". They make it much better than I can.
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You realize that arguing the validity of any faith is - jonesin - 7/4 15:25:48
     Examine the crucifiction and resurrection of Jesus Christ. - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 17:58:31
          Don't you find that kinda gross and morose & weird - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 18:50:29
               Various theories against the resurrection of Jesus. - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 19:05:34
                    Or Theory 4: It isn't possible. - GA Tiger MU - 7/4 19:31:03
                         "...all things are possible with God" Mark 10:27 (nm) - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 19:43:46
                              If true, then all the more reason to be, at best,indifferent - GA Tiger MU - 7/4 20:17:30
                              so you're using your original source to validate - ashtray USA - 7/4 19:57:17
                                   It is valid if the original source is true. - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 20:12:42
                                        the original source has no non-biblical sources to - ashtray USA - 7/4 20:22:17
                                             The finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls proved the accuracy - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 20:49:19
                                                  Where can I access that information? - GA Tiger MU - 7/4 21:04:17
                                                       I went to Google and typed in "Dead Sea Scrolls" and got - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 21:08:07
                                                            I was referring to the translations. I will look at it.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 7/4 21:11:08
                                                       you can't - ashtray USA - 7/4 21:05:19
                                                  as long as you continue to cite forgeries as proof - ashtray USA - 7/4 20:58:06
                                                       No, I never said the Dead Sea Scrolls date after Christ. - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 21:05:10
                                                            all the DSS prove is that Christianity is not unique - ashtray USA - 7/4 21:12:21
                    You missed one - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 19:18:56
                         What is your source that they were married? I never - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 19:45:06
                              Just finished a book - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 20:29:59
                         they hide nothing... - ashtray USA - 7/4 19:32:41
                    and Theory 4: - ashtray USA - 7/4 19:17:38
                         This is the year 2012 A.D. The "A.D." is Latin for - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 19:38:09
                              point by point... - ashtray USA - 7/4 19:55:57
                                   RE: point by point... - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 20:11:10
                                        I must respond to your last sentence. - GA Tiger MU - 7/4 20:21:54
                                        you miss the point that the Julian and later Gregorian - ashtray USA - 7/4 20:19:32
                                             Of course non-Christians are going to claim the passage - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 20:42:37
                                                  how do you know they are all non-Christians? - ashtray USA - 7/4 20:49:48
                                                       What is "Testimonium Flavianum"? I guess "Testimonium" - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 20:59:48
                                                            Book 18, Chapter 3, 3 of the Antiquities - ashtray USA - 7/4 21:02:52
     Yes, those humans are called "liberals" and politics is... - Salty Dog MU - 7/4 16:35:39
          You can't defend your absurd faith so you lash out. - 1500University MU - 7/5 10:26:52
     I disagree. It is not doomed to failure. A persuasive - *M* KC - 7/4 15:34:13
          This is a total lie, which is the only defense religion has. - 1500University MU - 7/5 10:27:55
          Christianity was a tool for power - iDr SEC - 7/4 19:56:12
          Not to mention archaeology confirms many "stories" in the - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 16:21:20
               nonsense - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:46:02
                    Rubbish - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 16:56:11
                         Kook Fight! - SoCalTigr UM - 7/4 18:52:51
                         the military incompetence of Arab armies is not proof - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:59:22
                              Maybe Gat can help us here - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 17:20:11
                                   In my time we didn't study it, which means nothing - GA Tiger MU - 7/4 21:08:44
                                   so.. - ashtray USA - 7/4 17:23:08
                              Debunk away boy - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 17:09:37
                                   the Kingdom of David was about the size of Brookside - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 17:21:37
                                        Nothing like the old Intercessionary God butting in on the - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 17:22:43
                                   Israel did have an air force - ashtray USA - 7/4 17:19:57
                                        Not in 1948 they didnt - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 17:21:57
                                             the six day war was in 1967 - ashtray USA - 7/4 17:23:49
                    Actually it is evidence of the power of Jewish money in - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:49:47
                         Jewish money in US politics is no surprise - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:54:28
               Not so much really - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:28:18
                    You really dont know what yer talking about - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 16:32:08
                         Back it up child, BACK IT UP - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:35:18
                              YOU calling ME a child is rich but whatever boy - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 16:42:45
                                   Yes old man there actually was a history in that region - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:55:48
                                        RE: Yes old man there actually was a history in that region - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 17:00:20
                                             Wow, Fertile Crescent had human history - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 17:04:08
                                   RE: YOU calling ME a child is rich but whatever boy - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 16:51:07
                                        Yes there was in fact History in the Fertile Crescent - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 17:01:16
               RE: Not to mention archeology confirms many "stories" in the - *M* KC - 7/4 16:26:04
                    Toothless Wonder speaks - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:30:16
                         I would be being hypocritical if i was claiming to be right - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 16:35:59
                              M makes proud proclamation that I have been wrong - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:44:09
                    Im fairly certain that God is no fan of Monsanto - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 16:27:59
          then why don't you make the rational, historically sound - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:17:04
               Why dont you ? - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 16:26:42
                    debunk this... - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:42:44
                         OK - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 17:27:45
                              Your 'evidence' speaks of believers, followers of a movement - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 18:54:19
                              here's what's interesting - ashtray USA - 7/4 18:03:02
                         RE: debunk this... - *M* KC - 7/4 17:09:32
                              RE: debunk this... - ashtray USA - 7/4 17:21:26
               RE: then why don't you make the rational, historically sound - *M* KC - 7/4 16:24:33
                    Executive summary please - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:43:07
                         RE: Executive summary please - *M* KC - 7/4 17:08:22
                              that doesn't sound compelling - ashtray USA - 7/4 17:22:06
                                   If I thought you were - *M* KC - 7/4 17:30:02
                                        I'm not denying the existence of a God - ashtray USA - 7/4 17:39:44
                                             No, I don't have to agree with that, and I don't agree with - *M* KC - 7/4 19:42:06
                                                  do you have evidence that proves otherwise? - ashtray USA - 7/4 19:58:13
                    Another good one is "The Message" which is the New Testament - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 16:30:52
          Excuse me, what are you trying to refute about - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 15:40:53
               You don't know what uoure talking about. You need to - *M* KC - 7/4 15:45:03
                    What are you talking about, specifically - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 15:50:02
                         Google it. - *M* KC - 7/4 15:57:08
                              Google what ?? - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:01:26
                                   RE: Google what ?? - *M* KC - 7/4 16:04:11
                                        Talk about Toothless !!! Wow - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:23:49
                                        Never heard of it - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:07:44
                                             I admit I have no personal knowledge. I merely assume - *M* KC - 7/4 16:31:57
                                                  So back it up or shut it up son - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:46:57
                                                       RE: So back it up or shut it up son - *M* KC - 7/4 17:32:57
                                                            Sir, you fail upon multiple requests back up your accusation - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 19:07:15
                                                                 I like the way you call me "Sir". Shows me the - *M* KC - 7/4 19:53:18
                              Sez the guy who argues fiction for a living. - glue MU - 7/4 16:00:49
                                   Nope. Never argued fiction for a living in my life(nm) - *M* KC - 7/4 16:05:36
                                        Your credibility is naught - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 17:19:20




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