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I always find it amusing when anti-religion types (GAT) use - Salty Dog MU - 7/4 11:04:26

Christianity is a pagan myth - ashtray USA - 7/4 12:43:07

Jesus is the Son of God. His coming was foretold - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 17:48:50

A ripping good tale - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 19:13:34

so your only proof of the existence of Jesus - ashtray USA - 7/4 18:05:17

Archeology supports the Bible. Most of those cities - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 18:28:20

it supports the cities and places - ashtray USA - 7/4 19:20:21

The Jewish historian Josephus backs his existence, - KC-YMCAownsKU MU - 7/4 19:47:19

no he doesn't.. - ashtray USA - 7/4 20:00:49

They are just a bunch of stories folks - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 13:05:04

So, how do you express your love for - Alferd Packer MU

- 7/4 15:33:17

By trying to overcome my initial feelings & forgive them - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 15:55:10

And, what exactly gives you authority to "forgive" any of - Alferd Packer MU

- 7/4 16:20:42

I love, I hate. I forgive what are affronts or attacks - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:34:20

Evasive. - Alferd Packer MU

- 7/4 18:18:02

I forgive all the time there bud, I don't need a diety OK - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 18:56:37

So, if you are ever mugged. - Alferd Packer MU

- 7/4 18:59:11

Jesus never called for pacifism - Nohawks MU - 7/4 13:14:11

LOVE YOUR ENEMY - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 13:23:52

You realize that these are meant as personal mandates. - Alferd Packer MU

- 7/4 15:24:17

Existing power were the Pharisees and Saducees - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 15:30:04

Their "power" was within the puppet government of Judea. - Alferd Packer MU

- 7/4 15:39:08

You are talking political structure. The Preacher was not - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 15:43:37

No. They were not like the Taliban. - Alferd Packer MU

- 7/4 20:29:38

All truths. I cant see why you dissent on the issue of Mono- - jonesin - 7/4 13:33:54

I kinda leap-frogged Mono-Theism - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 13:39:05

God is Trinity - Nohawks MU - 7/4 14:01:29

You seem pretty attached to Jesus as warrior thing - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 14:32:34

Where do you get warrior thing - Nohawks MU - 7/4 14:46:20

Jesus not a Pacifist. Takes it a bit far in my book - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 15:00:43

True 'nuff. According to the Just War theory - Nohawks MU - 7/4 16:25:55

Jesus didn't exist - ashtray USA - 7/4 14:05:09

Wellllllllllllllll, for starters, the NT includes 27 books - *M* KC - 7/4 15:26:04

so the Bible is your only historic point of reference - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:08:46

I am sorry. You are incorrect - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 15:35:57

Only Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, James, - *M* KC - 7/4 15:55:11

No sir. Those were NOT written by the apostles - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:00:13

RE: Jesus didn't exist - jonesin - 7/4 14:44:27

Sorry only the Baptist is mentioned in Secular texts. - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 15:06:09

In addition there was a movement at the time called The Way - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 15:07:59

you mean texts from people who didn't live during - ashtray USA - 7/4 14:47:20

You are correct Ash, but the movement did exist - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 15:12:34

you would think a miracle worker would have made - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:12:59

RE: you mean texts from people who didn't live during - jonesin - 7/4 15:12:20

there are no records of Jesus being crucified - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:14:28

Nor would there have been. - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 16:21:30

all the writings during the time - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:48:45

Again, there were other "Messiahs" at the time - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 17:18:23

and what is the source of that story? - ashtray USA - 7/4 17:25:19

Long time ago, I don'/r recall - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 17:51:22

I disagree - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 14:38:40

you "think" based on what? - ashtray USA - 7/4 14:42:08

Not at all - on what I want to be the Truth. I am not a - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 15:03:44

so by your logic he could have been multiple people - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:11:20

Slow down my friend. 12 is the number of tribes of Israel - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 17:09:19

12 tribes of Israel... - ashtray USA - 7/4 17:34:35

Where are the other historical texts from that era - Nohawks MU - 7/4 14:24:20

RE: Where are the other historical texts from that era - ashtray USA - 7/4 14:34:43

Josephus mentions the Baptist - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 15:16:09

yes, he mentions the Baptist, - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:12:08

Jesus was a minor figure but he REALLY impacted some - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 17:13:24

and what is the source of those stories? - ashtray USA - 7/4 17:35:43

You preaching to the choir - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 19:03:53

according the the only historical documentation, the Bible - ashtray USA - 7/4 19:22:04

Thanks for that - proof ? nm - Nohawks MU - 7/4 12:55:43

you can start with virgin births - ashtray USA - 7/4 13:11:10

Thanks for settling that but again - no proof - Nohawks MU - 7/4 13:16:25

you want the religious text? - ashtray USA - 7/4 13:18:03

I don't doubt they exist - Nohawks MU - 7/4 14:03:39

why would Christianity borrow the same stories from - ashtray USA - 7/4 14:06:46

I'd have to check the religions of the past - Nohawks MU - 7/4 14:25:29

baptism - ashtray USA - 7/4 14:40:20

THAT proves Christianity is a myth - Nohawks MU - 7/4 14:42:47

no, it doesn't... - ashtray USA - 7/4 14:45:15

An open minded person would weigh - Nohawks MU - 7/4 16:29:07

I don't have "faith" that it's made up - ashtray USA - 7/4 16:51:23

But will it last ? - Nohawks MU - 7/4 18:28:34

I'm very open minded... - ashtray USA - 7/4 19:30:35

There are a variety of reasons why I am a believer - Nohawks MU - 7/4 20:26:50

had you been raised in Kabul - ashtray USA - 7/4 20:46:01

If I was raised in Kabul & exposed to Christianity - Nohawks MU - 7/4 21:18:07

I would put my faith in science, which can be proven - ashtray USA - 7/4 21:25:36

Been watching zeitgeist again i see - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 12:47:24

the main argument still stands - ashtray USA - 7/4 12:49:29

No it does not - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 12:58:02

debunking some of the claims about Horus - ashtray USA - 7/4 13:06:54

So you watched what five minutes of the two hour debunking - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 13:13:13

Besides Jesus, Christianity believes in one God - ashtray USA - 7/4 13:25:08

And i suppose those Pagans predicted a people chosen as - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 13:37:31

each culture adopted their own customs and beliefs - ashtray USA - 7/4 13:41:16

Customs and beliefs my ass - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 13:56:56

how did that happen? - ashtray USA - 7/4 13:58:09

There is a reason Christian and Pagan holidays are usually - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 14:09:12

not only their holidays - ashtray USA - 7/4 14:43:00

You are in the vast majority who needs to - GA Tiger MU - 7/4 12:18:32

Am i part of the 6? - jonesin - 7/4 12:30:31

Haven't checked you out. But - GA Tiger MU - 7/4 13:13:34

Suffering from "Old Timer's Disease" with your memory? - Salty Dog MU - 7/4 12:30:22

It would appear you are saying that if I - GA Tiger MU - 7/4 13:25:12

"we Christians" please, not "us Christians" Jeez - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 11:22:43

Always a problem when you apply 15th century - Nohawks MU - 7/4 11:22:06

And i DO agree with you. Youth is a time of exploring and - jonesin - 7/4 12:01:07

Begs the question - Nohawks MU - 7/4 12:15:42

I believe, as a Christian, that that time comes about - jonesin - 7/4 12:22:06

To argue with that & claim to be a Christian - Nohawks MU - 7/4 12:30:28

I am not a Christian and I cannot argue with forgiveness - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 12:39:38

RE: I am not a Christian and I cannot argue with forgiveness - jonesin - 7/4 12:43:03

I don't find it necessary - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 13:09:25

Ahh the old Catholic blowback syndrome - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 13:22:49

Uncle Simpleton steps up to the plate - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 13:24:49

More like Uncle rocket scientist - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 13:44:58

OK, got me. Fascist NItwit - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 13:48:07

Never could - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 13:59:46

yep, pretty much that part of the mythology - ashtray USA - 7/4 12:47:39

They borrowed heavily from Zoaraster. But I don't begrudge - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 13:10:45

Self-reckoning?? You don't understand that principle? - jonesin - 7/4 12:36:43

OK - just haven't heard the term as stated (nm) - Nohawks MU - 7/4 12:41:23

I understand that. Real education is in SHORT supply today. - jonesin - 7/4 12:45:53

^^^^^like, same to you ^^^^^ nm - Nohawks MU - 7/4 13:04:38

And some young ones lack beards - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 11:31:26

You getting off on this Fester ? - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 11:37:19

I am finding it somewhat amusing yes - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 11:41:12

Whatever get you through the night - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 11:42:13

Right back atcha hippie - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 11:47:45

Again with your lurid imagination - raskolnikov MU - 7/4 11:56:25

Well now Uncle, with the news of the day coming - jonesin - 7/4 11:54:18

General Eisenhower is confused on alot of subjects - Uncle Fester KC - 7/4 11:13:09

I don't doubt they exist

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