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Bullpen catcher would be a nice gig if you can get it (nm)
Posted on: June 13, 2012 at 12:26:22 CT
FIJItiger
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Nestor didn't say goodbye to team
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thebrave
MU
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6/13 11:05:04
RE: Nestor didn't say goodbye to team
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/13 11:22:48
Which is undetstandable but...
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quinsnyderjr
MU
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6/13 14:57:09
RE: Nestor didn't say goodbye to team
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hondo
MU
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6/13 13:14:05
Quite an assumption, I think I'll reserve judgement till
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tigersfan
MU
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6/13 12:32:29
If he was really being demoted, it's not a stretch. (nm)
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mizzou john
MU
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6/13 13:28:40
There's that "if"word. I find it hard to believe he was
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tigersfan
MU
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6/13 15:42:01
and until we see how the new staff performs.....
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:33:41
Why would a guy who was supposedly such a big part
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Eggs
MU
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6/13 11:33:24
Because someone in his position needs to recruit
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:20:26
I thought we had two of the best recruiters in the
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BadAsh
SEC
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6/13 12:47:17
average? how does not recruiting at all equal average?(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:48:17
I'm assuming the person that replaces Nestor
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BadAsh
SEC
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6/13 13:27:36
So going from nothing to average would be a huge
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 13:39:29
In just recruiting, yet. Unfortunately there's a whole
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BadAsh
SEC
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6/13 15:40:25
And going from great strategist to non-strategist would be
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:41:46
How is this guy a non-strategist?
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tgr
MU
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6/13 14:29:28
We weren't talking about Leitao.
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 14:38:36
Well I'm talking about the likely hire.
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tgr
MU
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6/13 14:55:02
They made up for a non-recruiter just fine(nm)
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 12:50:56
And it has been pointed out that they actually didn't.
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tgr
MU
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6/13 12:54:51
They have been here for 1 year. You guys are making claims
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 12:56:08
I never said it was, but you claimed our recruiting was good
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tgr
MU
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6/13 12:58:21
Transfers still have to be recruited andd we picked up
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:02:49
Yes, they do have to be recruited. But you cannot contact
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tgr
MU
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6/13 13:10:35
Ok, so again I ask. Why did we hire Nestor in the first plac
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:12:28
I don't know the situation surrounding his hire.
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tgr
MU
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6/13 13:16:13
He was not hired with any intention of him making any kind
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:18:49
So we got a 4 star w/out ernie? Hrmm.....(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 13:03:26
Lol, yes, the kid saw we got rid of Ernie and immediately
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:04:41
Well, he obviously didn't commit because he liked
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 13:06:02
Yes, that was never part of anyones argument.
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:08:00
are you sure?(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 13:08:42
Do we have another recruiter?
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:09:42
So, if another guy can land a 4-star.....
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 13:10:58
Because we should be able to get them just fine with
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:14:59
Average recruiting is good enough for some as long
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 13:02:46
yup. We are already at a competitive disadvantage
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:55:35
So they can't do better? Why not shoot
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:51:18
Who says a recruiter instead of a strategist is going to
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 12:55:15
Who says it won't? Where do you come up with that?(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:55:54
I never said it wouldn't.(nm)
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 12:56:43
So then why argue against the move at this point?(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:58:03
Because we got rid of someone because.....?
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 12:59:55
We don't know anything about how this will turn out...
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 13:02:21
He didn't kick any important assistants off the team
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:03:52
What do you mean? He didn't retain any assistants
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 13:05:13
So? His staff and his time at Miami was sh*t.(nm)
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:07:09
So why hire him in the first place if that's what we wanted?
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 12:39:11
Keep in mind Nestor has quit his job 4 years running...
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:41:41
You mean the "We told him from the get-go he'd be here for
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 12:43:51
why don't you believe the demotion part? How many
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:45:22
The degree to which assistants recruit isn't well known by
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 12:49:38
Ernie never left columbia for recruiting....
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:50:51
They have been here for like a year and a year in which
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 12:52:45
Frank Haith has been a college coach for longer than you've
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tgr
MU
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6/13 13:00:22
Uh, Nestor was a coach for WAY longer than Haith.
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:05:41
Haith was a coach for 27 years, Nestor for 36 and you have
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tgr
MU
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6/13 13:13:26
So nestor has coached longer than haith and that
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 13:06:42
No, he said that someones years coaching means they
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:08:58
He didn't say Haith was smarter or had more experience
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 13:11:50
Yes, I know he didn't say it. His argument implied it.(nm)
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 13:13:05
And Haith hasn't done anything to this point to doubt
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:53:34
I don't want to demote assistants that by basically all
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 12:58:18
Finishing 30-5 and erasing all the questions that initially
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/13 12:28:07
I disagree. In today's world, you can never focus
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:32:46
We focused too much on recruiting when Quin was here.
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BadAsh
SEC
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6/13 13:35:53
No we didn't.
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quinsnyderjr
MU
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6/13 15:02:41
We had very good recruiting classes while he was here.
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BadAsh
SEC
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6/13 15:42:07
How are you so certain that all the success belongs to
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tgr
MU
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6/13 12:31:19
Nobody knows how important Nestor is to the program
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BadAsh
SEC
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6/13 13:39:05
Not all of it does. But I am certain a portion of it does
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/13 12:34:59
I wouldn't call getting someone to recruit "no reason".
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tgr
MU
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6/13 12:38:13
"no reason" is a flat out lie and you know it.(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:37:39
Dumb move in my opinion, hope it doesn't come back to
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/13 11:37:36
Incredibly dumb move.
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alwaysright
MU
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6/13 12:04:18
How do you know?(nm)
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Ragarm
MU
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6/13 12:17:06
If you don't do everything you can to keep the
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alwaysright
MU
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6/13 12:30:59
RE: If you don't do everything you can to keep the
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Ragarm
MU
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6/13 13:50:53
Nestor is a teacher and strategist. He is absolutely not
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alwaysright
MU
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6/13 20:55:03
Haith was the one coming up with the set plays at
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SuperTone
MU
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6/13 12:54:35
No he wasn't.
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alwaysright
MU
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6/13 20:57:35
For some reason, people just want to forget what Haith did
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BadAsh
SEC
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6/13 22:09:58
I said it all year long. This is nice and fun to watch.
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alwaysright
MU
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6/14 07:08:28
Explain to me why he sucked at Miami.(nm)
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BadAsh
SEC
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6/13 15:43:00
So what happens if we replace Nestor with a coach who has
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tgr
MU
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6/13 12:37:01
Leitao doesn't give me much hope for some reason.(nm)
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BadAsh
SEC
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6/13 13:31:56
We would be replacing a well-liked coach with a coach
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 12:45:56
RE: We would be replacing a well-liked coach with a coach
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tgr
MU
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6/13 12:51:35
Instead of listing players he coached and/or recruited, it'd
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BadAsh
SEC
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6/13 13:33:23
Because he is alwaysright (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/13 12:25:26
Because he has a time machine and has been to the future.(nm)
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tgr
MU
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6/13 12:20:59
I think it might. Coaching staff chemistry seemed perfect.
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thebrave
MU
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6/13 11:47:52
Decent chance it works out ok
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/13 11:52:58
I agree, we have recruiters
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Eggs
MU
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6/13 11:40:16
We had one less recruiter last year. So that means our
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tgr
MU
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6/13 11:48:10
Fuller may be leaving soon
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BLACKnGOLD07
MU
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6/13 11:45:23
Why wouldn't we just wait until he leaves to replace him?(nm)
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 12:44:21
I know these guys all have giant egos and want to be a HC
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mdoc
MU
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6/13 12:24:58
Bullpen catcher would be a nice gig if you can get it (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/13 12:26:22
No offense to Fuller, but a migh major hiring him as a
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/13 11:49:36
Maybe we'll get a Robert Whaley or Duane John out of
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/13 11:44:31
Hopefully Haith learned a thing or two in the short time
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TB Tiger
MU
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6/13 11:47:58
If we were demoting him wouldn't we have had his replacement
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Mizzmi27
MU
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6/13 11:32:07