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Slow day...lets talk Quin
Posted on: June 12, 2012 at 10:08:46 CT
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I want to detail what I consider to be one of the most amazing coaching achievements I’ve witnessed. For comparison’s sake I’ll set this up with an example of this past year to benchmark to in order to fully demonstrate how amazing this is.
2011-12
Top 100 RSCI rated players at coach’s disposal:
41 Phil Pressey
Output:
PPG….. Ranked 6th nationally
FG% …. Ranked 1st nationally
Assists per game ….Ranked 11th nationally
Turnovers committed ….Ranked 5th nationally
2004-05
Top 100 RSCI Rated Players at coach’s disposal:
14 Linas Kleiza
35 Jimmy McKinney
38 Thomas Gardner
45 Jason Horton
47 Marshall Brown
63 Kalen Grimes
93 Kevin Young
Output:
PPG…. Ranked 260th nationally
FG%....Ranked 282nd nationally
Assists per game…..Ranked 240th nationally
Turnovers committed …..Ranked 156th nationally
But to put things in a more ‘all time’ historical context, only once since the 1958-59 season has MU avged less than than 65 ppg over the course of a season. One. Single. Time. That is spanning periods when there was no 3 point line, spanning periods when there was no shot clock even. The only instance is that 2004-05 season, a season in which the coach had at his disposal 7 players who were RSCI rated in the top 100 (5 of which were top 50, and that doesn’t even include Jason Conley who is the first freshman in NCAA history to lead the nation in scoring). Think about what kind of offensive mind it requires to take that collection of talent and not be able to yield even 65 ppg. And its not like we slowed it down because we were so good defensively. We ranked 181st in FG% allowed, 269th in blocked shots, and 240th in steals that year as well. Keep in mind that for this season we also had FOUR coaches on staff with D1 head coaching experience (which may be a record in and of itself).
I could go on and on. Thomas Gardner became the first Tiger since we first qualified for the NCAA tournament to play more than 2 years at MU and not appear in an NCAA tourney game. Mckinney/Young became the losingest Tigers ever in terms of losses appeared in, a distinction they only held for 1 year until they were passed by Horton/Brown. In 2005-06, among 12 major statistical categories we did not rank higher than 209th among D1 teams in any of them.
Not to say that your skills can’t grow and you can’t improve over time, but it just seems amazing to me that Quin is being considered for a head coaching position in the NBA given the huge sample of data we have available at the college level. If you gave him a 24 second shot clock at MU, I’m not sure we would have attempted more than 4 or 5 shots per game inside the three point line. EVERY SINGLE GAME involved a 5-7 minute stretch of a scoreless draught from the field after Gilbert and Kareem weren't around to bomb in three pointers. We could barely inbound the ball out of timeouts or get off non-desperation shots at the close of halves/games. And of course that doesn’t even get into the aspect that he just quit in the middle of the season.
Edited by FIJItiger at 10:13:14 on 06/12/12
2011-12
Top 100 RSCI rated players at coach’s disposal:
41 Phil Pressey
Output:
PPG….. Ranked 6th nationally
FG% …. Ranked 1st nationally
Assists per game ….Ranked 11th nationally
Turnovers committed ….Ranked 5th nationally
2004-05
Top 100 RSCI Rated Players at coach’s disposal:
14 Linas Kleiza
35 Jimmy McKinney
38 Thomas Gardner
45 Jason Horton
47 Marshall Brown
63 Kalen Grimes
93 Kevin Young
Output:
PPG…. Ranked 260th nationally
FG%....Ranked 282nd nationally
Assists per game…..Ranked 240th nationally
Turnovers committed …..Ranked 156th nationally
But to put things in a more ‘all time’ historical context, only once since the 1958-59 season has MU avged less than than 65 ppg over the course of a season. One. Single. Time. That is spanning periods when there was no 3 point line, spanning periods when there was no shot clock even. The only instance is that 2004-05 season, a season in which the coach had at his disposal 7 players who were RSCI rated in the top 100 (5 of which were top 50, and that doesn’t even include Jason Conley who is the first freshman in NCAA history to lead the nation in scoring). Think about what kind of offensive mind it requires to take that collection of talent and not be able to yield even 65 ppg. And its not like we slowed it down because we were so good defensively. We ranked 181st in FG% allowed, 269th in blocked shots, and 240th in steals that year as well. Keep in mind that for this season we also had FOUR coaches on staff with D1 head coaching experience (which may be a record in and of itself).
I could go on and on. Thomas Gardner became the first Tiger since we first qualified for the NCAA tournament to play more than 2 years at MU and not appear in an NCAA tourney game. Mckinney/Young became the losingest Tigers ever in terms of losses appeared in, a distinction they only held for 1 year until they were passed by Horton/Brown. In 2005-06, among 12 major statistical categories we did not rank higher than 209th among D1 teams in any of them.
Not to say that your skills can’t grow and you can’t improve over time, but it just seems amazing to me that Quin is being considered for a head coaching position in the NBA given the huge sample of data we have available at the college level. If you gave him a 24 second shot clock at MU, I’m not sure we would have attempted more than 4 or 5 shots per game inside the three point line. EVERY SINGLE GAME involved a 5-7 minute stretch of a scoreless draught from the field after Gilbert and Kareem weren't around to bomb in three pointers. We could barely inbound the ball out of timeouts or get off non-desperation shots at the close of halves/games. And of course that doesn’t even get into the aspect that he just quit in the middle of the season.
Edited by FIJItiger at 10:13:14 on 06/12/12
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