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I stand corrected re: Devine and Faurot

Posted on: May 20, 2012 at 20:28:10 CT
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I'm guilty of looking through black and gold colored glasses: Faurot was 3-4-1 against OU before WWII, and lost 11 in a row after he returned in '45. At least you can concede that he did a pretty good job mentoring Bud Wilkinson and Jim Tatum. I was also thinking of Devine's record against OU in the 60's (4-5-1) But you included Gwinn Henry's record as a kU coach against OU. At Mizzou, he had a winning record against OU...albeit a modest 5-4-1.

Mizzou and OU were tied with an overall record of. 16-16-4 in 1945. OU took off and never looked back.

The point really is that KState was competing w/ Wake Forest for the worst overall record in college football history before Bill Snyder took over. Snyder performed a
miracle in Manhattan, but the question remains of it's sustainability. We have an
indication that it will be difficult for Snyder's next successor, based on Prince's flop. At least Mizzou has had more historical success, plus, again with black and gold glasses, it appears that Pinkel is building a more solid foundation for his program in Columbia.

Edited by BB63 at 20:59:05 on 05/20/12
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B12 about to make the same mistake it made when formed - Tgr83 MU - 5/20 08:30:28
     Sort of the same mistakes we made going to SEC?(nm) - Ragarm MU - 5/20 11:06:53
          Have you spent much time South of I-70? - Tgr83 MU - 5/20 14:02:47
          Missouri is sooooo culturally like Texas. MO borders as many - etherice MU - 5/20 11:59:40
               "Culturally, Mizzou could fit in the Big12, Big10 or SEC."?? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:11:32
                    Do explain. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 12:25:41
                         Sure. How is MU a "cultural fit" with the B10? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:29:28
                              For all of you below... - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 17:04:32
                              I agree. MU isn't arrogant enough.(nm) - BadAsh SEC - 5/20 13:55:06
                              That is not an explanation. It is a question. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 13:32:31
                              Agree, you are a douche to even argue that - sfprman MU - 5/20 13:09:20
                              Sorry, TJ, but you are a douche(nm) - BlackFlagTiger MU - 5/20 12:32:52
     Bottom line is that the Big XII is reactively expanding... - Lerxst MU - 5/20 09:59:36
     The SEC is the power actuator in college football right now. - Ozland Tiger LSU - 5/20 09:46:15
          Dude, you have something on your nose - Blitzkrieg OU - 5/20 10:14:28
               Dude, the point is Conference Brand vs Institution Brand - Mark of the Tiger MU - 5/20 14:34:22
               What's flavor of vomit is the OU S&C serving this year? - peterman'srealitytour MU - 5/20 13:39:59
               Wallflower is obvious wallflower(nm) - BlackFlagTiger MU - 5/20 12:08:22
               I've never understood that either. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:07:22
                    Ozland never said we became an elite program - BlackFlagTiger MU - 5/20 12:19:16
                         Okay. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:21:51
                              RE: Okay. - 615Tiger MU - 5/20 12:53:12
                                   Well - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 17:07:10
               We will not be wallflowers. You guys are hilarious.(nm) - hangman MU - 5/20 12:03:56
               This is Gary Pinkel's Program now - Mutiger MU - 5/20 10:56:08
                    So pinkel leaves = Stull Widenhofer, Smith? - Blitzkrieg OU - 5/20 15:31:27
                         or Devine, Faurot, or Henry, - BB63 MU - 5/20 15:45:14
                              Never heard of Henry - Blitzkrieg OU - 5/20 17:11:47
                                   I stand corrected re: Devine and Faurot - BB63 MU - 5/20 20:28:10
               Welcome back wallflower (nm) - Tgr83 MU - 5/20 10:54:02
               Do You Realize Missouri Has 6 Million People - MizzouView MU - 5/20 10:34:00
               RE: Dude, you have something on your nose - Merlin KC - 5/20 10:27:10
               You had your 90's to suffer through - Bobk MU - 5/20 10:27:06
               It's about stability - BOILERTIGER MU - 5/20 10:21:35
               This coming from BEVO's Numero UNO Biaatch!!! - Tiger44 SEC - 5/20 10:18:49
                    RE: This coming from BEVO's Numero UNO Biaatch!!! - Blitzkrieg OU - 5/20 10:25:01
                         it's even more ironic coming from a wallflower. - BB63 MU - 5/20 10:33:23
                              OU had the very first offer from the SEC - Blitzkrieg OU - 5/20 15:33:14
                                   OU could not meet SEC academic standards - jrogers BAMA - 5/20 18:43:39
                                   Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better. - BB63 MU - 5/20 15:40:53
                              RE: it's even more ironic coming from a wallflower. - XRob MU - 5/20 11:13:15
          Absolutely, and the Big XII is now on the clock - Merlin KC - 5/20 10:02:00
     The danger for the Big 12 is not now - SatoriTiger JC - 5/20 09:32:41
     I have to disagree - Merlin KC - 5/20 09:28:19
          RE: I have to disagree - UARKPoke OSU - 5/20 13:34:40
               You're still nothing but a glorified juco(nm) - Merlin KC - 5/20 13:55:16
          I don't think the two points are incompatible - Tgr83 MU - 5/20 10:53:06
               Yep, that was always the rub - Merlin KC - 5/20 11:27:52
                    Just like battered wives, they have a choice. - BadAsh SEC - 5/20 20:47:28
     Some of those same issues are issues with us moving to the - go tigers MU - 5/20 09:17:51
     I care so little about the Big12 and it's actions, I can't - high.nrg STL - 5/20 09:13:54
          RE: I care so little about the Big12 and it's actions, I can't - Blitzkrieg OU - 5/20 09:22:02
               Rights agreement hasn't been signed - Bobk MU - 5/20 10:29:14
               best top to bottom? - SatoriTiger JC - 5/20 09:27:34
                    kU might be the worst D1 football program in america - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/20 10:00:54
                         RE: kU might be the worst D1 football program in america - Blitzkrieg OU - 5/20 10:11:47
                              and they would drill kU(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/20 10:14:44




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