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SEC could use some lesser football teams
Posted on: May 20, 2012 at 10:37:34 CT
Beak Breaker
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this is how it's going to be!
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Gardyloo
UT
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5/20 10:12:15
I selfishly want it to stay at 14. I want MU in the club
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KINGTIGER
KC
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5/20 16:31:56
I agree. 4 conferences of 14 is better than 4 conferences
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BadAsh
SEC
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5/20 21:07:39
The other 65 teams might put up a fuss
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Bobk
MU
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5/20 21:34:22
There's always going to be complainers.(nm)
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BadAsh
SEC
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5/21 08:49:33
Or not (nm)
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TigerinKansas
MU
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5/20 15:39:32
After the lunacy you posted recently, do yourself a favor &
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Gary P.
STL
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5/20 16:07:01
Looks very good! Great setup and logic
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Mizz_Tiger
MU
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5/20 14:27:25
I think that's broadly correct
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 14:17:55
instead of the floating opponent, just have everybody
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dangertim
MU
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5/20 15:45:43
^^^But Les Miles really does not care for MU, HA! *
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MizzouBuickFan
MU
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5/20 14:05:31
I agree, but instead of having semi's, your two divisions
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dangertim
MU
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5/20 13:19:08
actually makes sense
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Gardyloo
UT
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5/20 13:35:04
Honestly, if the SEC had it's own playoff
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BadAsh
SEC
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5/20 14:14:59
That makes no sense, therefore given the direction Missouri
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alstl
MU
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5/20 12:48:25
This feels appropriate here:
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Gary P.
STL
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5/20 16:10:09
What? (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:04:48
He's feeling ignored again
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Merlin
KC
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5/20 13:52:07
he reminds me of rock888(nm)
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BadAsh
SEC
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5/20 14:12:12
BigTen has 4 more slots, including 1 for Notre Dame, and...
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etherice
MU
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5/20 11:46:08
Norte Dame and BC are a package deal
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jlbomega
MU
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5/20 13:17:09
I can't see UNC, UVA, Duke going to the SEC.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:04:30
Fine...take 'em. We'll gladly take Va Tech and NC State
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 14:20:23
Sounds good to me.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 14:37:43
Where does our resident illini
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crudup
99
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5/20 12:33:47
^^^As BORING as illini sports are, i can see why he is here*
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MizzouBuickFan
MU
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5/20 14:07:55
And, yet, here you are with another hump of my posts.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 14:29:31
I clearly stated it in the post.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:41:00
It was a joke
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crudup
99
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5/20 12:42:54
hilarious.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:43:42
Enough learning you for now. Im off to troll the nubs board
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crudup
99
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5/20 13:05:08
Clearly, you had no intention of any civil discourse.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:06:50
lol, what a douchey way to phrase it (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:11:08
He responded with insults and didn't even discuss the topic.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:12:32
Yes, but you talk in a condescending way, which is very
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:16:45
Talk in a condescending way?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:24:18
You couldn't possibly dumb it down. You could try not stat
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:30:22
And, you respond with more insults.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:38:36
In reply to your insults, and stupidity... yes. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:40:25
I said crud up was only interested in insults.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:43:04
UNC isn't "elite". And Vanderbilt seems to do fine despite
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:30:31
it was a throwaway line
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 14:22:52
True.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 14:31:23
I have yet to see any actual evidence for the claim
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 15:19:40
It's about prestige in the research field.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 15:30:13
I see no evidence that the athletic conference matters
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 16:03:12
No where in my post did I mention athletic conference.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 16:44:53
UNC is the best public academic university in the country.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:42:30
They aren't even top 10
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Grasslands
MU
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5/20 12:49:15
haha. Go look at the rankings of the top public universities
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:51:06
They might make up 5-10
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Grasslands
MU
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5/20 12:58:04
What are your criteria?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:00:05
I don't have raw data in front of me, but
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Grasslands
MU
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5/20 13:11:54
I'm too lazy to look it up, but
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:16:06
Agree with most of that
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Grasslands
MU
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5/20 13:28:30
Disagree with that statement
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 12:45:41
UNC is top 10 public, maybe. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:49:18
I might put Cal at best. But, Michigan, UNC, UVA are all
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:49:05
Sorry..... UVA is better.(nm)
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Tiger@chicago
MU
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5/20 12:53:28
Nope.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:54:08
UVA is smaller but is more competitive academically
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Grasslands
MU
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5/20 13:05:31
For sure with their law.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:07:28
And Cal. And UCLA. And like 5 others, at least. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:54:00
So you admit you're wrong. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:49:47
He said public, Penn is private(nm)
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Grasslands
MU
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5/20 12:52:03
True. One of the Ivies is partially public, thought it was
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:52:54
Partially public?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:53:51
As in receives *some* funds from the state, but very little.
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:08:10
That would in no way make them public.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:11:59
OK. I admit I was wrong on Penn. You should do the same on..
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:15:02
Except UNC's rank is debatable. Penn being a public school?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:17:30
Sounds like someone who can't admit he's wrong...
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:20:10
UNC's ranking can be debated. Penn being public can't.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:26:18
I was the one that initially pointed out that you were wrong
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:34:20
Wrong about UNC? Dude, I said I could be convinced about Cal
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:41:57
It's not even worth a response.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:52:27
What part of my post didn't you read?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:51:44
I read the part that said "UNC is the best public U in the
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:53:28
Yes, I said, I'd give him Cal. Thus, I was retracting the
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:55:07
And someone who thinks UNC is the best public U, too. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:56:53
I said I'd give him Cal. I could be persuaded on Cal.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:58:49
I realize that the US News and World Report ranking
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BB63
MU
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5/20 13:05:44
True.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:23:22
The ranking is based on undergrad programs. College
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BB63
MU
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5/20 13:47:05
Illinois... LOL (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:35:27
Apparently, you didn't see the ;)
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:44:46
I did. I was laughing at what a B10 homer you are... the
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:52:52
It was a joke, tough guy.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:58:04
Wisky # 42 (nm)
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BB63
MU
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5/20 13:52:21
You're looking at a list of private & public.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:56:56
Yes, and Wisconsin is # 42 overall.(nm)
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BB63
MU
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5/20 14:45:17
Are you suggesting that #42 has anything to do with whether
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 15:05:33
Of course not...how in the sam hill could you interpret
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BB63
MU
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5/20 15:19:11
Chill? Huh?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 15:34:33
You're reading too much into my post. I agree that Wisky
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BB63
MU
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5/20 15:55:11
Okay. Just confused as to why you kept posting #42
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 16:46:07
USC is private. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:07:15
True...sorry...will edit. (nm)
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BB63
MU
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5/20 13:08:40
Either do you. You made an idiotic statement about UNC, and
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:00:43
UNC's ranking among public institutions can be debated.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:18:24
The problem is that NO ONE agrees w/ your side except YOU...
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:21:37
Then, stick to the topic and debate UNC's merit vs UVA.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:27:07
Debate? You already admitted you were wrong about UNC...
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:38:27
No, I said I could be swayed on Cal being ahead of UNC.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:46:02
Hey. Stop pointing out facts. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:47:11
lol, ok (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:44:47
I'm not joking. Are you suggesting otherwise?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:45:37
The problem is that you think you know what you're talking
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:48:33
Once again, are you suggesting that Iowa isn't?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:50:13
I'm asking you to prove that Iowa is. I say they're not.
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:51:19
What criteria do you want to use?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:52:09
School of Medicine. Law. Engineering. Journalism. Business..
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:58:29
Sorry, but you're wrong. Here you go:
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:38:16
Grad schools...
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:51:06
I used US News Rankings.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:55:21
Here you go:
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:57:20
BTW, those rankings show up before the USNWR rankings
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:59:59
You used undergraduate rankings of a different source.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 14:28:13
I would agree w/ BoilerTiger's reply. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:47:37
it won't happen unless
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AndyTiger
MU
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5/20 12:06:10
If the B10 is going to take more teams...
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:09:16
That would be good. Then the SEC takes Maryland, VA Tech...
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:34:57
There is enough to make eveybody happy
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 14:25:23
I could see that.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:41:17
Not sure UNC can leave until NCSU finds a home
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 12:16:25
it won't be Georgia Tech
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 14:27:05
VT and NC State is best
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Mizz_Tiger
MU
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5/20 13:58:48
Yeah, VA Tech and one of GA Tech, Clemson, or FSU...
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:37:18
I was, but the more I think about it
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 12:38:35
I think they could in time
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 14:29:24
Why? This is news to me.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:19:49
UNC, Duke and NCSU are all closely affiliated in the
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 12:22:25
Of course. But, that doesn't mean they're obligated to go
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:24:03
Ncst, nc, duke, and virginia were all in a conf with the SEC
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crudup
99
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5/20 12:41:06
You don't get out much if you think that's true.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:41:50
Really? Ever hear of the SoCon?
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crudup
99
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5/20 12:44:18
Prove they're "overrated in sports and books"
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:46:16
They prove it all year on espn. And they aint ivy league
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crudup
99
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5/20 12:49:37
More name calling and dodging.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:53:14
Books. Academics
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crudup
99
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5/20 12:57:46
Well, it's not like the BigTen wins NC's anymore. How long
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:43:09
He stated: "overrated in sports and books"
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:44:34
Do you think UNC-CH will hit the road if NCSU doesn't
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 12:29:48
UNC has zero loyalty to NC State.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:43:20
NC State is an engineering school mostly
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 14:33:04
NC State isn't in the same tier as UNC/Duke.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 14:37:23
OK. I never said that was not the case
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 15:14:50
I obviously never said they were a bunch of backward farmers
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 15:38:00
I think openly or not the Big 10 and SEC will cooperate
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 16:06:44
Agree.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 16:47:46
zero loyalty?
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 12:46:44
Did A&M have loyalty to UT?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:57:37
Actually, out of those 4, Duke really wouldn't make sense...
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etherice
MU
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5/20 11:54:22
the only reason to take Duke would be to get UNC.
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AndyTiger
MU
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5/20 12:07:00
Duke is plenty valuable on their own.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:10:13
The SEC cares primarily about football
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 12:13:24
SEC cares about $$$. Period.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:21:02
Duke ranked # 10...Vandy tied for # 17,
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BB63
MU
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5/20 13:22:35
True that Vandy is the SEC outlier.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:47:08
Duke wouldn't be 2x better than Vanderbilt. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:38:22
No sh*t
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 12:39:42
Not virtually the same.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:48:34
Right, was replying to tjwheelers ignorant statement. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:40:25
: SEC cares about $$$. Not just ' Period" & Not so fast !
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GeoTiger
AU
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5/20 12:26:28
A core southern identity?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 12:28:39
Yes. You don't understand-not that I'm surprised
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 14:40:28
Nice of you to resort to insults.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 15:39:00
saying you don't understand is an insult?
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 16:07:42
I asked a question. What is this "core southern identity"?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 17:00:50
look at the profile of the SEC schools
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 17:57:08
That is a "core southern identity"?
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/21 13:26:23
it is to some people.
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BadAsh
SEC
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5/20 16:33:59
I asked a question. Just waiting for an answer.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 17:02:00
I don't know what it is, but I'm also not going
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BadAsh
SEC
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5/20 20:40:34
Another solid contribution then.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/21 13:24:37
Which school in the SEC is NOT below the Mason-Dixon?...
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:39:30
Right over your head.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:50:23
If you don't understand something, you can ask but don't em-
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GeoTiger
AU
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5/20 12:38:59
You didn't answer the question.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:49:36
The BIG used to have a brand that they were comitted to
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 12:34:27
I just asked about the "core southern identity"
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:48:03
Yep, with Nebraska, BigTen really isn't that elite academ...
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etherice
MU
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5/20 12:41:36
IIRC, all but Nebraska are better than Missouri.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 13:51:01
Maybe according to your methodology that puts UNC as
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etherice
MU
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5/20 13:55:43
No, based on the vast majority of rankings.
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tjwheeler
UI
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5/20 14:33:11
UNC & UVA or VA Tech would be the home run expansion. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 11:49:33
Any two state schools, one each from VA & NC would fit
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GeoTiger
AU
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5/20 12:07:10
Agree on everything, except...
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etherice
MU
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5/20 11:40:37
If you did it that way, it would be much easier and
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mcduffiedawg2
UGA
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5/20 11:45:39
You could do 2 perm rivals per school, but then you are
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etherice
MU
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5/20 11:48:07
Some would, it just depends. The key is the schools
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mcduffiedawg2
UGA
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5/20 11:50:15
Didn't confuse me. Here is how I see the cross division
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mcduffiedawg2
UGA
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5/20 11:30:06
I've gotta say, if NCSU and VT are the best we can do
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AndyTiger
MU
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5/20 11:14:10
I don't think 'We' are in much of a position to make demands
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Gary P.
STL
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5/20 15:49:15
Va Tech was ranked 71st. That ain't bad at all
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 14:49:59
Simply not true. Great markets and football culture fits
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Mizz_Tiger
MU
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5/20 14:16:28
When did Maryland become strong academically?
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 11:49:36
AAU member, top 50 ranking. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 11:50:00
Alright, so Maryland may make sense
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 12:00:36
They were a slave state, and border Virginia
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AndyTiger
MU
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5/20 12:04:00
NCST brings another top 30 media market
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tigerboardnoob
MU
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5/20 11:17:01
is NCSU popular though?
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AndyTiger
MU
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5/20 12:04:49
#2 Team in North Carolina
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 17:54:32
You missed the most important thing, what will happen to the
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BeepLikeAJeep
MU
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5/20 10:58:23
they'll never let arKansas into the SEC(nm)
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Iam4Mizzou
MU
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5/20 10:53:40
RE: this is how it's going to be!
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sasrocks
MU
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5/20 10:33:36
NCSU is a poor football program
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 10:36:39
SEC could use some lesser football teams
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Beak Breaker
KC
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5/20 10:37:34
Ding Ding Ding We have a winner folks !
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GeoTiger
AU
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5/20 10:39:38
As a fan of a university that recently joined the SEC,
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BB63
MU
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5/20 15:29:00
Lemme smooth the waters
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 16:14:07
I appreciate the effort.
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BB63
MU
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5/20 16:27:23
Yup, I would rather have Ga Tech over NCSU
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 11:01:32
GT burnt that bridge long ago
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Gardyloo
UT
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5/20 13:33:54
GT applied for readmission around 1970 and was rejected
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 14:52:46
I don't agree with that
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 10:39:05
Right you are, they have to care just not enough to do much
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GeoTiger
AU
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5/20 10:40:45
That was directed at sassy stones above
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Beak Breaker
KC
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5/20 10:40:29
They are both land grant institutions as well I think***
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mcduffiedawg2
UGA
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5/20 11:48:08
Oh god yes... Louisville is a terrible fit
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 10:44:21
Miss Tech, but too many things have changed nm
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GeoTiger
AU
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5/20 11:36:41
Doubt It
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MizzouView
MU
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5/20 10:29:47
South is much weaker?
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BB63
MU
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5/20 10:36:02
No one team would completely dominate
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 10:33:37
Anyone but UNC or UVA seems like a waste to me.(nm)
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KINGTIGER
KC
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5/20 10:28:22
Quiet--this is an adult conversation.
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Gary P.
STL
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5/20 15:58:54
Va Tech would be good. Solid academics. (nm)
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etherice
MU
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5/20 11:41:12
UNC won't go anywhere without Duke
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 10:31:59
I used to think that, too....
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TheDawgfather2
UGA
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5/20 10:43:49
the fans are split between SEC and Big 10
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 15:05:54
UNC part of Old Southern League, homecoming ?
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GeoTiger
AU
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5/20 11:46:59
nm
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etherice
MU
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5/20 11:34:01
IMO, the BIG would love to take Duke and UNC
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 10:47:47
I'm sure Duke would go to the B1G....
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TheDawgfather2
UGA
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5/20 10:50:59
Syracuse surrendered their AAU membership
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HungaryGator
UF
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5/20 15:08:05
I agree but not because of Duke's bad FB program
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Tgr83
MU
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5/20 11:00:45
I really don't like Syracuse
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 11:05:49
Doesn't matter...
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TheDawgfather2
UGA
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5/20 11:55:13
Duke is god awful at football
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 11:00:08
Syracuse offers the same thing in a bigger market.**
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TheDawgfather2
UGA
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5/20 11:04:52
The issue the BIG really has right now
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 11:13:33
Your degree isn't going to be more or less valuable
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TheDawgfather2
UGA
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5/20 11:52:25
I like the way you think...
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BB63
MU
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5/20 10:25:09
This is what I see as well..
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 10:24:47
Wouldn't surprise me at all(nm)
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Merlin
KC
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5/20 10:24:09
This would lead to an epic TV contract
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BOILERTIGER
MU
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5/20 10:26:44
that's cool. only ooc game is the nc game, correct?
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TheRealist
MU
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5/20 10:22:32