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this is how it's going to be!

Posted on: May 20, 2012 at 10:12:15 CT

Gardyloo UT

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SEC East:

Florida
South Carolina
Georgia
North Carolina State

SEC West:

Missouri
Texas A&M
Arkansas
LSU

SEC South:

Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State

SEC Highlands:

Tennessee
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech

Will play 9 conference games:

3 teams in your own division

4 teams from another division (the division you
play will rotate yearly; will play all the East teams one year, South teams the next, etc.)

1 team each from the remaining 2 divisions (these will be your cross divisional rivals, and you will have one for each of the 3 other divisions. you will play these teams annually.)

The 4 division winners will play in the a Final Four. Example, if the SEC West happened to play the SEC South during the stated regular season, then they will meet in one semi-finals, and so on.

Finally, the conference champion will then be declared National Champions of all the Universe, and everyone will celebrate with a big fat check from CBS/ESPN/Fox/Sky Sports/Whomever we negotiate our media rights with!

Hope that doesn't confuse anyone!

And I chose NCSU and VPI because of a couple of reasons. First, they are a better fit for the SEC culture. But with that said, UNC and UVA will still be our two dream candidates; I just have a feeling they would rather opt for the Big 10 or some version of an altered ACC over joining the SEC.

Edited by Gardyloo at 10:14:19 on 05/20/12

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this is how it's going to be! - Gardyloo UT - 5/20 10:12:15

I selfishly want it to stay at 14. I want MU in the club - KINGTIGER KC - 5/20 16:31:56

I agree. 4 conferences of 14 is better than 4 conferences - BadAsh SEC - 5/20 21:07:39

The other 65 teams might put up a fuss - Bobk MU - 5/20 21:34:22

There's always going to be complainers.(nm) - BadAsh SEC - 5/21 08:49:33

Or not (nm) - TigerinKansas MU

- 5/20 15:39:32

After the lunacy you posted recently, do yourself a favor & - Gary P. STL - 5/20 16:07:01

Looks very good! Great setup and logic - Mizz_Tiger MU - 5/20 14:27:25

I think that's broadly correct - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 14:17:55

instead of the floating opponent, just have everybody - dangertim MU - 5/20 15:45:43

^^^But Les Miles really does not care for MU, HA! * - MizzouBuickFan MU - 5/20 14:05:31

I agree, but instead of having semi's, your two divisions - dangertim MU - 5/20 13:19:08

actually makes sense - Gardyloo UT - 5/20 13:35:04

Honestly, if the SEC had it's own playoff - BadAsh SEC - 5/20 14:14:59

That makes no sense, therefore given the direction Missouri - alstl MU - 5/20 12:48:25

This feels appropriate here: - Gary P. STL - 5/20 16:10:09

What? (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 13:04:48

He's feeling ignored again - Merlin KC - 5/20 13:52:07

he reminds me of rock888(nm) - BadAsh SEC - 5/20 14:12:12

BigTen has 4 more slots, including 1 for Notre Dame, and... - etherice MU - 5/20 11:46:08

Norte Dame and BC are a package deal - jlbomega MU - 5/20 13:17:09

I can't see UNC, UVA, Duke going to the SEC. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:04:30

Fine...take 'em. We'll gladly take Va Tech and NC State - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 14:20:23

Sounds good to me. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 14:37:43

Where does our resident illini - crudup 99 - 5/20 12:33:47

^^^As BORING as illini sports are, i can see why he is here* - MizzouBuickFan MU - 5/20 14:07:55

And, yet, here you are with another hump of my posts. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 14:29:31

I clearly stated it in the post. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:41:00

It was a joke - crudup 99 - 5/20 12:42:54

hilarious. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:43:42

Enough learning you for now. Im off to troll the nubs board - crudup 99 - 5/20 13:05:08

Clearly, you had no intention of any civil discourse. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:06:50

lol, what a douchey way to phrase it (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 13:11:08

He responded with insults and didn't even discuss the topic. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:12:32

Yes, but you talk in a condescending way, which is very - etherice MU - 5/20 13:16:45

Talk in a condescending way? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:24:18

You couldn't possibly dumb it down. You could try not stat - etherice MU - 5/20 13:30:22

And, you respond with more insults. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:38:36

In reply to your insults, and stupidity... yes. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 13:40:25

I said crud up was only interested in insults. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:43:04

UNC isn't "elite". And Vanderbilt seems to do fine despite - etherice MU - 5/20 12:30:31

it was a throwaway line - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 14:22:52

True. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 14:31:23

I have yet to see any actual evidence for the claim - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 15:19:40

It's about prestige in the research field. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 15:30:13

I see no evidence that the athletic conference matters - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 16:03:12

No where in my post did I mention athletic conference. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 16:44:53

UNC is the best public academic university in the country. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:42:30

They aren't even top 10 - Grasslands MU - 5/20 12:49:15

haha. Go look at the rankings of the top public universities - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:51:06

They might make up 5-10 - Grasslands MU - 5/20 12:58:04

What are your criteria? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:00:05

I don't have raw data in front of me, but - Grasslands MU - 5/20 13:11:54

I'm too lazy to look it up, but - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:16:06

Agree with most of that - Grasslands MU - 5/20 13:28:30

Disagree with that statement - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 12:45:41

UNC is top 10 public, maybe. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 12:49:18

I might put Cal at best. But, Michigan, UNC, UVA are all - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:49:05

Sorry..... UVA is better.(nm) - Tiger@chicago MU - 5/20 12:53:28

Nope. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:54:08

UVA is smaller but is more competitive academically - Grasslands MU - 5/20 13:05:31

For sure with their law. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:07:28

And Cal. And UCLA. And like 5 others, at least. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 12:54:00

So you admit you're wrong. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 12:49:47

He said public, Penn is private(nm) - Grasslands MU - 5/20 12:52:03

True. One of the Ivies is partially public, thought it was - etherice MU - 5/20 12:52:54

Partially public? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:53:51

As in receives *some* funds from the state, but very little. - etherice MU - 5/20 13:08:10

That would in no way make them public. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:11:59

OK. I admit I was wrong on Penn. You should do the same on.. - etherice MU - 5/20 13:15:02

Except UNC's rank is debatable. Penn being a public school? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:17:30

Sounds like someone who can't admit he's wrong... - etherice MU - 5/20 13:20:10

UNC's ranking can be debated. Penn being public can't. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:26:18

I was the one that initially pointed out that you were wrong - etherice MU - 5/20 13:34:20

Wrong about UNC? Dude, I said I could be convinced about Cal - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:41:57

It's not even worth a response. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:52:27

What part of my post didn't you read? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:51:44

I read the part that said "UNC is the best public U in the - etherice MU - 5/20 12:53:28

Yes, I said, I'd give him Cal. Thus, I was retracting the - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:55:07

And someone who thinks UNC is the best public U, too. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 12:56:53

I said I'd give him Cal. I could be persuaded on Cal. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:58:49

I realize that the US News and World Report ranking - BB63 MU - 5/20 13:05:44

True. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:23:22

The ranking is based on undergrad programs. College - BB63 MU - 5/20 13:47:05

Illinois... LOL (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 13:35:27

Apparently, you didn't see the ;) - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:44:46

I did. I was laughing at what a B10 homer you are... the - etherice MU - 5/20 13:52:52

It was a joke, tough guy. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:58:04

Wisky # 42 (nm) - BB63 MU - 5/20 13:52:21

You're looking at a list of private & public. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:56:56

Yes, and Wisconsin is # 42 overall.(nm) - BB63 MU - 5/20 14:45:17

Are you suggesting that #42 has anything to do with whether - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 15:05:33

Of course not...how in the sam hill could you interpret - BB63 MU - 5/20 15:19:11

Chill? Huh? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 15:34:33

You're reading too much into my post. I agree that Wisky - BB63 MU - 5/20 15:55:11

Okay. Just confused as to why you kept posting #42 - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 16:46:07

USC is private. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 13:07:15

True...sorry...will edit. (nm) - BB63 MU - 5/20 13:08:40

Either do you. You made an idiotic statement about UNC, and - etherice MU - 5/20 13:00:43

UNC's ranking among public institutions can be debated. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:18:24

The problem is that NO ONE agrees w/ your side except YOU... - etherice MU - 5/20 13:21:37

Then, stick to the topic and debate UNC's merit vs UVA. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:27:07

Debate? You already admitted you were wrong about UNC... - etherice MU - 5/20 13:38:27

No, I said I could be swayed on Cal being ahead of UNC. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:46:02

Hey. Stop pointing out facts. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 12:47:11

lol, ok (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 12:44:47

I'm not joking. Are you suggesting otherwise? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:45:37

The problem is that you think you know what you're talking - etherice MU - 5/20 12:48:33

Once again, are you suggesting that Iowa isn't? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:50:13

I'm asking you to prove that Iowa is. I say they're not. - etherice MU - 5/20 12:51:19

What criteria do you want to use? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:52:09

School of Medicine. Law. Engineering. Journalism. Business.. - etherice MU - 5/20 12:58:29

Sorry, but you're wrong. Here you go: - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:38:16

Grad schools... - etherice MU - 5/20 13:51:06

I used US News Rankings. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:55:21

Here you go: - etherice MU - 5/20 13:57:20

BTW, those rankings show up before the USNWR rankings - etherice MU - 5/20 13:59:59

You used undergraduate rankings of a different source. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 14:28:13

I would agree w/ BoilerTiger's reply. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 12:47:37

it won't happen unless - AndyTiger MU

- 5/20 12:06:10

If the B10 is going to take more teams... - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:09:16

That would be good. Then the SEC takes Maryland, VA Tech... - etherice MU - 5/20 12:34:57

There is enough to make eveybody happy - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 14:25:23

I could see that. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:41:17

Not sure UNC can leave until NCSU finds a home - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 12:16:25

it won't be Georgia Tech - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 14:27:05

VT and NC State is best - Mizz_Tiger MU - 5/20 13:58:48

Yeah, VA Tech and one of GA Tech, Clemson, or FSU... - etherice MU - 5/20 12:37:18

I was, but the more I think about it - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 12:38:35

I think they could in time - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 14:29:24

Why? This is news to me. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:19:49

UNC, Duke and NCSU are all closely affiliated in the - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 12:22:25

Of course. But, that doesn't mean they're obligated to go - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:24:03

Ncst, nc, duke, and virginia were all in a conf with the SEC - crudup 99 - 5/20 12:41:06

You don't get out much if you think that's true. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:41:50

Really? Ever hear of the SoCon? - crudup 99 - 5/20 12:44:18

Prove they're "overrated in sports and books" - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:46:16

They prove it all year on espn. And they aint ivy league - crudup 99 - 5/20 12:49:37

More name calling and dodging. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:53:14

Books. Academics - crudup 99 - 5/20 12:57:46

Well, it's not like the BigTen wins NC's anymore. How long - etherice MU - 5/20 12:43:09

He stated: "overrated in sports and books" - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:44:34

Do you think UNC-CH will hit the road if NCSU doesn't - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 12:29:48

UNC has zero loyalty to NC State. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:43:20

NC State is an engineering school mostly - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 14:33:04

NC State isn't in the same tier as UNC/Duke. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 14:37:23

OK. I never said that was not the case - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 15:14:50

I obviously never said they were a bunch of backward farmers - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 15:38:00

I think openly or not the Big 10 and SEC will cooperate - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 16:06:44

Agree. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 16:47:46

zero loyalty? - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 12:46:44

Did A&M have loyalty to UT? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:57:37

Actually, out of those 4, Duke really wouldn't make sense... - etherice MU - 5/20 11:54:22

the only reason to take Duke would be to get UNC. - AndyTiger MU

- 5/20 12:07:00

Duke is plenty valuable on their own. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:10:13

The SEC cares primarily about football - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 12:13:24

SEC cares about $$$. Period. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:21:02

Duke ranked # 10...Vandy tied for # 17, - BB63 MU - 5/20 13:22:35

True that Vandy is the SEC outlier. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:47:08

Duke wouldn't be 2x better than Vanderbilt. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 12:38:22

No sh*t - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 12:39:42

Not virtually the same. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:48:34

Right, was replying to tjwheelers ignorant statement. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 12:40:25

: SEC cares about $$$. Not just ' Period" & Not so fast ! - GeoTiger AU - 5/20 12:26:28

A core southern identity? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 12:28:39

Yes. You don't understand-not that I'm surprised - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 14:40:28

Nice of you to resort to insults. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 15:39:00

saying you don't understand is an insult? - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 16:07:42

I asked a question. What is this "core southern identity"? - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 17:00:50

look at the profile of the SEC schools - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 17:57:08

That is a "core southern identity"? - tjwheeler UI - 5/21 13:26:23

it is to some people. - BadAsh SEC - 5/20 16:33:59

I asked a question. Just waiting for an answer. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 17:02:00

I don't know what it is, but I'm also not going - BadAsh SEC - 5/20 20:40:34

Another solid contribution then. - tjwheeler UI - 5/21 13:24:37

Which school in the SEC is NOT below the Mason-Dixon?... - etherice MU - 5/20 12:39:30

Right over your head. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:50:23

If you don't understand something, you can ask but don't em- - GeoTiger AU - 5/20 12:38:59

You didn't answer the question. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:49:36

The BIG used to have a brand that they were comitted to - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 12:34:27

I just asked about the "core southern identity" - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:48:03

Yep, with Nebraska, BigTen really isn't that elite academ... - etherice MU - 5/20 12:41:36

IIRC, all but Nebraska are better than Missouri. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 13:51:01

Maybe according to your methodology that puts UNC as - etherice MU - 5/20 13:55:43

No, based on the vast majority of rankings. - tjwheeler UI - 5/20 14:33:11

UNC & UVA or VA Tech would be the home run expansion. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 11:49:33

Any two state schools, one each from VA & NC would fit - GeoTiger AU - 5/20 12:07:10

Agree on everything, except... - etherice MU - 5/20 11:40:37

If you did it that way, it would be much easier and - mcduffiedawg2 UGA - 5/20 11:45:39

You could do 2 perm rivals per school, but then you are - etherice MU - 5/20 11:48:07

Some would, it just depends. The key is the schools - mcduffiedawg2 UGA - 5/20 11:50:15

Didn't confuse me. Here is how I see the cross division - mcduffiedawg2 UGA - 5/20 11:30:06

I've gotta say, if NCSU and VT are the best we can do - AndyTiger MU

- 5/20 11:14:10

I don't think 'We' are in much of a position to make demands - Gary P. STL - 5/20 15:49:15

Va Tech was ranked 71st. That ain't bad at all - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 14:49:59

Simply not true. Great markets and football culture fits - Mizz_Tiger MU - 5/20 14:16:28

When did Maryland become strong academically? - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 11:49:36

AAU member, top 50 ranking. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 11:50:00

Alright, so Maryland may make sense - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 12:00:36

They were a slave state, and border Virginia - AndyTiger MU

- 5/20 12:04:00

NCST brings another top 30 media market - tigerboardnoob MU - 5/20 11:17:01

is NCSU popular though? - AndyTiger MU

- 5/20 12:04:49

#2 Team in North Carolina - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 17:54:32

You missed the most important thing, what will happen to the - BeepLikeAJeep MU - 5/20 10:58:23

they'll never let arKansas into the SEC(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 5/20 10:53:40

RE: this is how it's going to be! - sasrocks MU - 5/20 10:33:36

NCSU is a poor football program - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 10:36:39

SEC could use some lesser football teams - Beak Breaker KC - 5/20 10:37:34

Ding Ding Ding We have a winner folks ! - GeoTiger AU - 5/20 10:39:38

As a fan of a university that recently joined the SEC, - BB63 MU - 5/20 15:29:00

Lemme smooth the waters - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 16:14:07

I appreciate the effort. - BB63 MU - 5/20 16:27:23

Yup, I would rather have Ga Tech over NCSU - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 11:01:32

GT burnt that bridge long ago - Gardyloo UT - 5/20 13:33:54

GT applied for readmission around 1970 and was rejected - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 14:52:46

I don't agree with that - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 10:39:05

Right you are, they have to care just not enough to do much - GeoTiger AU - 5/20 10:40:45

That was directed at sassy stones above - Beak Breaker KC - 5/20 10:40:29

They are both land grant institutions as well I think*** - mcduffiedawg2 UGA - 5/20 11:48:08

Oh god yes... Louisville is a terrible fit - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 10:44:21

Miss Tech, but too many things have changed nm - GeoTiger AU - 5/20 11:36:41

Doubt It - MizzouView MU - 5/20 10:29:47

South is much weaker? - BB63 MU - 5/20 10:36:02

No one team would completely dominate - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 10:33:37

Anyone but UNC or UVA seems like a waste to me.(nm) - KINGTIGER KC - 5/20 10:28:22

Quiet--this is an adult conversation. - Gary P. STL - 5/20 15:58:54

Va Tech would be good. Solid academics. (nm) - etherice MU - 5/20 11:41:12

UNC won't go anywhere without Duke - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 10:31:59

I used to think that, too.... - TheDawgfather2 UGA - 5/20 10:43:49

the fans are split between SEC and Big 10 - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 15:05:54

UNC part of Old Southern League, homecoming ? - GeoTiger AU - 5/20 11:46:59

nm - etherice MU - 5/20 11:34:01

IMO, the BIG would love to take Duke and UNC - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 10:47:47

I'm sure Duke would go to the B1G.... - TheDawgfather2 UGA - 5/20 10:50:59

Syracuse surrendered their AAU membership - HungaryGator UF - 5/20 15:08:05

I agree but not because of Duke's bad FB program - Tgr83 MU - 5/20 11:00:45

I really don't like Syracuse - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 11:05:49

Doesn't matter... - TheDawgfather2 UGA - 5/20 11:55:13

Duke is god awful at football - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 11:00:08

Syracuse offers the same thing in a bigger market.** - TheDawgfather2 UGA - 5/20 11:04:52

The issue the BIG really has right now - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 11:13:33

Your degree isn't going to be more or less valuable - TheDawgfather2 UGA - 5/20 11:52:25

I like the way you think... - BB63 MU - 5/20 10:25:09

This is what I see as well.. - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 10:24:47

Wouldn't surprise me at all(nm) - Merlin KC - 5/20 10:24:09

This would lead to an epic TV contract - BOILERTIGER MU

- 5/20 10:26:44

that's cool. only ooc game is the nc game, correct? - TheRealist MU - 5/20 10:22:32

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