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JGiny
Posted on: May 17, 2012 at 12:26:47 CT
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A trend that happens in all countries.
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GA Tiger
MU
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5/17 08:22:25
Walkers call for END to collective bargaining - hardly tiny
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raskolnikov
MU
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5/17 13:03:46
Govt as enemy - effective argument for stupid people
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raskolnikov
MU
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5/17 12:58:56
So teachers, firemen, and police are lazy and overpaid?
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KCNorthSider85
KC
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5/17 12:14:30
That is SO demlib.
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GA Tiger
MU
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5/17 12:56:48
It's extreme to disagree with Ann Coulter?
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KCNorthSider85
KC
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5/17 15:16:54
Stop Whining
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raskolnikov
MU
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5/17 13:02:14
Many, many teachers are... Get rid of tenure
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Spanky
KU
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5/17 12:32:04
"Many many teachers are"
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KCNorthSider85
KC
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5/17 15:17:38
I can't remember the last time I picked up a paper
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Spanky
KU
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5/17 15:26:23
Listen I'm not saying there are no lazy teachers
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KCNorthSider85
KC
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5/17 15:27:43
Guess you don't understand tenuire, huh?
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raskolnikov
MU
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5/17 13:04:49
Yes.. it removes performance from the criteria for keeping
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Spanky
KU
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5/17 13:47:53
You do realize that's not at all what tenure is
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KCNorthSider85
KC
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5/17 15:22:25
It means you cannot be fired....
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Spanky
KU
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5/17 15:28:28
Also, new inexperienced teachers are much cheaper than
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KCNorthSider85
KC
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5/17 15:34:39
No you can be fired. It's more of a process in that case
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KCNorthSider85
KC
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5/17 15:31:53
It takes an act of God to fire a teacher
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Spanky
KU
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5/17 18:25:08
Personally I've known 2. Not a huge sample size I realize
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KCNorthSider85
KC
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5/17 19:07:59
Out of how many teachers? Bet that is less than .1%
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Spanky
KU
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5/17 19:41:30
The school must provide a good reason for termination(nm)
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KCNorthSider85
KC
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5/17 15:28:28
You know, you might have a point if
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 09:03:55
Disproportionately? I want figures on that.(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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5/17 09:36:03
You want Doc to provide figures??
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Salty Dog
MU
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5/17 10:23:32
It's not so much figures as a definition
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Spanky
KU
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5/17 11:36:27
Except that's not what I said, and I already explained that
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 13:15:56
It s precisely what you said
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Spanky
KU
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5/17 13:52:25
I already answered this
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 14:36:10
No-one in the world (except you) belives the CA economy
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Spanky
KU
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5/17 18:12:42
Just as I stated below
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 11:57:39
So now you measure efficiency by whether or not
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 13:18:24
Doc seems to have trouble with word meaning. But then
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GA Tiger
MU
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5/17 11:38:33
Ummm...speaking of "redefining language"
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 11:58:47
Since I define the words I coin
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JG
MU
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5/17 12:22:11
???????(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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5/17 12:01:50
Ooops, Meant for JG below
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 12:06:15
Gatiny(nm)
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JG
MU
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5/17 11:39:37
I jest. I'm such a kidder.(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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5/17 10:57:39
It's amazing what I consider widely accepted fact that you
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 09:37:19
Because your facts are not widely accepted, Doc
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Spanky
KU
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5/17 11:37:43
Republicaniny
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JG
MU
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5/17 11:56:33
JGiny
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Alferd Packer
MU
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5/17 12:26:47
LInk?
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 09:14:43
You must be as naive as GAT thinking Doc would actually...
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Salty Dog
MU
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5/17 10:27:05
I'm sure its an ad hom attack to point out the extreme
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JG
MU
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5/17 12:31:18
What I find odd
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 10:37:41
Except I don't base my case on anecdotes
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 10:42:11
You just did, citing all your professor friends that make
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 11:05:10
Also, I never said anecdotes have no value at all, only that
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 13:15:07
All the ones that I know are at the top of their field
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 12:55:29
I have four words for you, Doc...
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Salty Dog
MU
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5/17 11:02:00
How is that based on anecdotes?
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 13:38:24
Here's a nice CBO analysis of the issue
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 09:36:45
The big problem with this study
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 09:46:05
Well, do you have something to indicate
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 09:50:41
Yes...the Debt Clock
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 10:02:28
Profit and loss is not efficiency
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 10:17:47
RE: Profit and loss is not efficiency
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 10:27:38
Well considering I pay them to deliver that junk mail
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 10:37:01
How do you pay for that?
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 11:00:29
Umm, business revenue(nm)
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 12:53:28
I would also speak anecdotally, since you like that so much
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 09:44:29
Paid considerably less, but work considerably less
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 09:53:59
That's just entirely fabricated
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 10:26:50
I realize they don't pocket grants
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 10:36:46
Oh wow, that's just completely at odds with everything
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 10:41:22
PhDs "make half a private sector salary" ?
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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5/17 11:02:46
I just told you, didn't you read?(nm)
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Doc_Nice
MU
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5/17 12:53:02