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Posted on: May 17, 2012 at 09:14:43 CT

Mizzou Lou KC

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Can you break down government workers by category? I don't believe that doctors, lawyers, and scientists are "disproportionately high" in any sector. Civil Service is like any hierarchy, wider at the base than the tip of the pyramid.

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A trend that happens in all countries. - GA Tiger MU - 5/17 08:22:25

Walkers call for END to collective bargaining - hardly tiny - raskolnikov MU - 5/17 13:03:46

Govt as enemy - effective argument for stupid people - raskolnikov MU - 5/17 12:58:56

So teachers, firemen, and police are lazy and overpaid? - KCNorthSider85 KC - 5/17 12:14:30

That is SO demlib. - GA Tiger MU - 5/17 12:56:48

It's extreme to disagree with Ann Coulter? - KCNorthSider85 KC - 5/17 15:16:54

Stop Whining - raskolnikov MU - 5/17 13:02:14

Many, many teachers are... Get rid of tenure - Spanky KU - 5/17 12:32:04

"Many many teachers are" - KCNorthSider85 KC - 5/17 15:17:38

I can't remember the last time I picked up a paper - Spanky KU - 5/17 15:26:23

Listen I'm not saying there are no lazy teachers - KCNorthSider85 KC - 5/17 15:27:43

Guess you don't understand tenuire, huh? - raskolnikov MU - 5/17 13:04:49

Yes.. it removes performance from the criteria for keeping - Spanky KU - 5/17 13:47:53

You do realize that's not at all what tenure is - KCNorthSider85 KC - 5/17 15:22:25

It means you cannot be fired.... - Spanky KU - 5/17 15:28:28

Also, new inexperienced teachers are much cheaper than - KCNorthSider85 KC - 5/17 15:34:39

No you can be fired. It's more of a process in that case - KCNorthSider85 KC - 5/17 15:31:53

It takes an act of God to fire a teacher - Spanky KU - 5/17 18:25:08

Personally I've known 2. Not a huge sample size I realize - KCNorthSider85 KC - 5/17 19:07:59

Out of how many teachers? Bet that is less than .1% - Spanky KU - 5/17 19:41:30

The school must provide a good reason for termination(nm) - KCNorthSider85 KC - 5/17 15:28:28

You know, you might have a point if - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 09:03:55

Disproportionately? I want figures on that.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 5/17 09:36:03

You want Doc to provide figures?? - Salty Dog MU - 5/17 10:23:32

It's not so much figures as a definition - Spanky KU - 5/17 11:36:27

Except that's not what I said, and I already explained that - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 13:15:56

It s precisely what you said - Spanky KU - 5/17 13:52:25

I already answered this - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 14:36:10

No-one in the world (except you) belives the CA economy - Spanky KU - 5/17 18:12:42

Just as I stated below - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 11:57:39

So now you measure efficiency by whether or not - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 13:18:24

Doc seems to have trouble with word meaning. But then - GA Tiger MU - 5/17 11:38:33

Ummm...speaking of "redefining language" - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 11:58:47

Since I define the words I coin - JG MU - 5/17 12:22:11

???????(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 5/17 12:01:50

Ooops, Meant for JG below - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 12:06:15

Gatiny(nm) - JG MU - 5/17 11:39:37

I jest. I'm such a kidder.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 5/17 10:57:39

It's amazing what I consider widely accepted fact that you - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 09:37:19

Because your facts are not widely accepted, Doc - Spanky KU - 5/17 11:37:43

Republicaniny - JG MU - 5/17 11:56:33

JGiny - Alferd Packer MU

- 5/17 12:26:47

LInk? - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 09:14:43

You must be as naive as GAT thinking Doc would actually... - Salty Dog MU - 5/17 10:27:05

I'm sure its an ad hom attack to point out the extreme - JG MU - 5/17 12:31:18

What I find odd - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 10:37:41

Except I don't base my case on anecdotes - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 10:42:11

You just did, citing all your professor friends that make - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 11:05:10

Also, I never said anecdotes have no value at all, only that - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 13:15:07

All the ones that I know are at the top of their field - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 12:55:29

I have four words for you, Doc... - Salty Dog MU - 5/17 11:02:00

How is that based on anecdotes? - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 13:38:24

Here's a nice CBO analysis of the issue - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 09:36:45

The big problem with this study - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 09:46:05

Well, do you have something to indicate - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 09:50:41

Yes...the Debt Clock - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 10:02:28

Profit and loss is not efficiency - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 10:17:47

RE: Profit and loss is not efficiency - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 10:27:38

Well considering I pay them to deliver that junk mail - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 10:37:01

How do you pay for that? - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 11:00:29

Umm, business revenue(nm) - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 12:53:28

I would also speak anecdotally, since you like that so much - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 09:44:29

Paid considerably less, but work considerably less - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 09:53:59

That's just entirely fabricated - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 10:26:50

I realize they don't pocket grants - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 10:36:46

Oh wow, that's just completely at odds with everything - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 10:41:22

PhDs "make half a private sector salary" ? - Mizzou Lou KC - 5/17 11:02:46

I just told you, didn't you read?(nm) - Doc_Nice MU

- 5/17 12:53:02