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Lets break this down to the simplest terms, so that I can

Posted on: May 16, 2012 at 14:54:16 CT
FIJItiger MU
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demonstrate to you that it actually can be won.

We all agree (at least I hope) that on Sept. 22, 1861 the town of Osceola Missouri went from a population of 2,500 to a population of 200, and that devastation was brought upon it via a group of kansans refering to itself as jayhawks. It involved a two-day orgy of looting, arson, rape, and murder.

As such...we can all agree (again, I hope) that no matter how much time passes or no matter how many different incarnations the term jayhawk takes on, its HUGELY offensive and insensative to the decendants of those who were impacted by the actions of jayhawks to think that their own state would glorify the symbol.

Agree, or can you possibly disagree with that arguement?
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License plate board update - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 11:47:04
     All Missouri fans have moved past the Kansas rivalry... - alstl MU - 5/16 17:35:50
     The licensing fees from the sale of the plate goes to ku - Tigerfish MU - 5/16 13:36:48
     Do you actually do any work Fiji? I haven't been on this bo - Gabberowski MU - 5/16 13:34:34
          Of course, the work I perform is via a computer (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 13:59:00
     WASTE OF TIME Why is this on the basketball board? - MIZZOUowns UGA - 5/16 13:34:19
          because they used to be our rivals(nm) - tigerdb MU - 5/16 13:58:34
          RE: WASTE OF TIME Why is this on the basketball board? - Self Rule USA - 5/16 13:35:57
               Oh, I see. I thought he was a moderator?(nm) - MIZZOUowns UGA - 5/16 13:37:46
                    I can be a moderator and a raving lunatic, not mutually - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 14:00:37
               Go away beaker. SEC!(nm) - catbirdseat KC - 5/16 13:37:18
     it should never be allowed until they change their mascot - SuperTone MU - 5/16 12:22:05
     Pointless debate and a waste of time - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 12:13:12
          If jayhawks were anti slavery why did they murder union - SuperTone MU - 5/16 12:47:02
               kansas was against becoming a slave state for 2 major reason - MarineinMO USMC - 5/16 12:52:23
                    I don't think Kansas was the "good guy" in all of this - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 12:54:30
                         Missouri's equivalent would be called the Bushwhackers(nm) - Grasslands MU - 5/16 15:02:36
                         Solid point IF we were the Mizzou Quantrils - BMNJNY MU - 5/16 14:16:40
                         Of course Missourians weren't saint but we don't celebrate - SuperTone MU - 5/16 13:04:48
                         It was the 1800's. Their actions and positions don't - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 13:02:37
                              It also had very, very little to do with slavery, or black - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 13:05:06
                                   Yup. It was killing in the name of hate. Same as Nazis - SuperTone MU - 5/16 13:05:55
                         And what is our mascot again? (nm) - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 12:56:32
                         Missouri didnt label their flagship institution - MarineinMO USMC - 5/16 12:55:38
          It is the exact same thing - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 12:30:15
               Good response but I think the issue is whether the - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 12:36:19
                    RE: Good response but I think the issue is whether the - Self Rule USA - 5/16 14:12:41
                    The only group referred to as jayhawks or jayhawkers - Bobk MU - 5/16 13:52:02
                    nothing is without bias, so there isn't going to be any - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 12:50:27
          Did you fail history or do you just think you can re-write - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 12:27:38
               What's incorrect? - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 12:38:18
                    Yes, you are wrong. (nm) - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 12:43:15
                         Then what's the real story? nm - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 12:47:04
                              About what? (nm) - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 12:53:06
          It is your opinion that the South was the "Bad Guys". Not - ROLLATIGER MU - 5/16 12:26:08
               There weren't really "good" or "bad" guys in the Civil War - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 12:30:55
          Agree that comparing them to Nazis is extreme. - cooter MU - 5/16 12:14:51
               Along with three anti-slavery constitutions - Bobk MU - 5/16 13:58:08
               Fair enough - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 12:20:05
                    I'd have no ill will to the university of kansas if they - SuperTone MU - 5/16 12:48:32
                    Why deny history? That's an ignorant way to live life. - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 12:29:09
                         Hilarious coming from "RememberQuantrill" - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 12:40:20
                              William Quantrill was a person, not a symbol. - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 12:42:37
                                   Hypocrisy at its finest - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 12:46:52
                                        Do you think its even within the realm of possibility - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 12:53:20
                                             But the "Jayhawk" doesn't really represent that anymore - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 12:56:39
                                                  The hell it doesn't. Their own school website says as much(nm) - SuperTone MU - 5/16 15:19:27
                                                  Of course it does. That is its meaning and why ku - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 13:07:02
                                                       Exactly, and if any proof is needed, look at their - MarineinMO USMC - 5/16 13:10:59
                                                            why did they wear the red legs ONLY against Missouri - TouchDown MU - 5/16 13:45:35
                                                  So by your logic a swastika is now acceptable. - DHighlander MU - 5/16 13:04:10
                                                       I think we need to use some common sense here - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 13:08:58
                                                            You don't view it that way. - DHighlander MU - 5/16 13:17:06
                                                            Your handle says Mizzoudiehard, - MarineinMO USMC - 5/16 13:13:13
                                                            Can't say 'nobody', because I do. So there is 1 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 13:11:14
                                                            Nobody? Well clearly many people do. You have a fascinating - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 13:11:00
                                        What's hypocritical about that? - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 12:51:35
                                             Point is, you've celebrated a murderer with your handle. - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 12:59:25
                                                  Quite a difference with a private citizen and a - MarineinMO USMC - 5/16 13:06:39
                                                  You really don't see the difference? - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 13:01:00
                                                       Then why did you choose your handle? - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 13:05:53
                                                            Because this is a Mizzou sports message board and for the - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 13:10:05
                                                                 So don't take the Quantrill reference literally, but take - mizzoudiehard MU - 5/16 13:12:45
                                                                      Don't you think it somewhat odd - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 13:18:31
                                                                           RE: Don't you think it somewhat odd - Self Rule USA - 5/16 13:25:47
                                                                                I didn't say the term was coined then, I said it was - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 14:04:08
                                                                                     RE: I didn't say the term was coined then, I said it was - Self Rule USA - 5/16 14:07:29
                                                                                          I thought your point was that it predated the terrorism? - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 14:14:53
                                                                                               RE: I thought your point was that it predated the terrorism? - Self Rule USA - 5/16 14:20:06
                                                                                                    I have to assume you are like 15, so I apoligize in advance - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 14:25:52
                                                                                                         RE: I have to assume you are like 15, so I apoligize in advance - Self Rule USA - 5/16 14:33:06
                                                                                                              No, its not appropriate - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 14:39:57
                                                                                                                   RE: No, its not appropriate - Self Rule USA - 5/16 14:44:58
                                                                                                                        Lets break this down to the simplest terms, so that I can - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 14:54:16
                                                                                                                             RE: Lets break this down to the simplest terms, so that I can - Self Rule USA - 5/16 15:04:36
                                                                                                                                  Most people are on the side that - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 15:27:13
                                                                                                                                       Give it up Fiji. As they say DENIAL is not just a river. - DHighlander MU - 5/16 15:50:13
                                                                                Reading comprehension seems to allude you! - DHighlander MU - 5/16 13:36:48
                                                                                     RE: Reading comprehension seems to allude you! - Self Rule USA - 5/16 13:39:24
                                                                                          Your school disagrees with you.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 5/16 18:56:51
                                                                                          Yes and the swastika dates back 3000 years. - DHighlander MU - 5/16 13:44:19
                                                                                               RE: Yes and the swastika dates back 3000 years. - Self Rule USA - 5/16 13:50:05
                                                                                                    The only people making fun were clueless kansans like you! - DHighlander MU - 5/16 13:57:32
                                                                                               RE: Yes and the swastika dates back 3000 years. - Self Rule USA - 5/16 13:47:36
                                                                                                    and forever changed! - DHighlander MU - 5/16 13:52:50
                                                                                You should learn to read. (nm) - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 13:27:17
                                                                                     RE: You should learn to read. (nm) - Self Rule USA - 5/16 13:30:36
                                                                                          Well, considering nothing you posted in response - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 13:32:24
                                                                                               RE: Well, considering nothing you posted in response - Self Rule USA - 5/16 13:34:35
                                                                                                    lol (nm) - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 13:39:03
                                                                                                    Please read the first sentence of the article. - DHighlander MU - 5/16 13:38:52
                                                                                                         RE: Please read the first sentence of the article. - Self Rule USA - 5/16 13:40:15
                                                                                                              Just like the swastika and confederate flag ... - DHighlander MU - 5/16 13:49:25
                                                                                                                   RE: Just like the swastika and confederate flag ... - Self Rule USA - 5/16 13:52:58
                                                                                                                        No anyone who understands history makes that association. - DHighlander MU - 5/16 14:02:32
                                                                                                                        And you probably look pretty stupid showing - GoMizzouTigers MU - 5/16 13:54:51
                                                                                                                             RE: And you probably look pretty stupid showing - Self Rule USA - 5/16 14:08:59
                                                                                                                                  Oh....yea it has to suck to come to a message board - GoMizzouTigers MU - 5/16 14:39:32
                                                                                                                                       RE: Oh....yea it has to suck to come to a message board - Self Rule USA - 5/16 14:45:53
                                                                      But #2 is just not true or accurate. Whatever your personal - RememberQuantrill MU - 5/16 13:14:53
                    So are you OK with busts of Hitler? (nm) - ROLLATIGER MU - 5/16 12:27:41
     He certainly went limp with that comment. - Toger MU - 5/16 12:11:58




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