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It is the exact same thing
Posted on: May 16, 2012 at 12:30:15 CT
FIJItiger MU
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On Sept. 22, 1861, Osceola was a prosperous city of 2,500. Then 'jayhawkers' came to the city for a two-day orgy of looting, arson, drunkenness and murder. A dozen men were executed on the town square. When the attackers left -- taking away all the property and livestock they could move -- the town was a smoking ruin, and fewer than 200 people remained.
They weren't fighting against slavery, nor did the people murdered by jayhawkers have anything to do with that cause. The only difference in that analogy is twofold:
1. The Nazi's didn't create a cartoon and attach a mythical connotation to their name
2. One happened more than 100 years ago and the other happened less than 100 years ago
Your point is mine exactly. Politicians trying to score points with their constituants by making it a University of Missouri vs university of kansas completely misses the entire point. It should be a complete non-starter that the symbol of a jayhawk be put on the state of Missouri merchandise. I do agree, making all these things Civil War issues is stupid. It was a different time with different norms and behaviors and views on what was acceptable. The difference is that ku still identifies itself with the symbol of jayhawks, specifically with the intent to enrage and offend its main rival. If MU was the MU Quantrill's Raiders it would be just as bad in this day and age....but that is ludicrious to think an institution of higher learning in this day and age would still identify itself in such a manner (at least one other than ku).
Again, who cares if the state of Missouri makes license plates refering to the university of kansas. Its beyond petty to take offense to that. But its highly offensive, particularly for those who come from families who were senselessly murdered or raped by jayhawks, to think that our own state would look to put that symbol on something we are creating.
They weren't fighting against slavery, nor did the people murdered by jayhawkers have anything to do with that cause. The only difference in that analogy is twofold:
1. The Nazi's didn't create a cartoon and attach a mythical connotation to their name
2. One happened more than 100 years ago and the other happened less than 100 years ago
Your point is mine exactly. Politicians trying to score points with their constituants by making it a University of Missouri vs university of kansas completely misses the entire point. It should be a complete non-starter that the symbol of a jayhawk be put on the state of Missouri merchandise. I do agree, making all these things Civil War issues is stupid. It was a different time with different norms and behaviors and views on what was acceptable. The difference is that ku still identifies itself with the symbol of jayhawks, specifically with the intent to enrage and offend its main rival. If MU was the MU Quantrill's Raiders it would be just as bad in this day and age....but that is ludicrious to think an institution of higher learning in this day and age would still identify itself in such a manner (at least one other than ku).
Again, who cares if the state of Missouri makes license plates refering to the university of kansas. Its beyond petty to take offense to that. But its highly offensive, particularly for those who come from families who were senselessly murdered or raped by jayhawks, to think that our own state would look to put that symbol on something we are creating.
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It is the exact same thing - FIJItiger MU - 5/16 12:30:15