Welcome Guest

RE: You're arguing against something I never said; ie that

Posted on: May 7, 2012 at 11:47:27 CT
HissingPrigs77 MU
Posts:
2834
Member For:
1.49 yrs
Level:
User
M.O.B. Votes:
0
"The next time you hear a coach say his team needs to make free throws or get to the line more often, you can be a little more skeptical. Team free throw shooting is not highly correlated to reaching the Final Four. Over the last 10 years, the average national rank of Final Four teams has been outside the top 100 in both free throw percentage (110.2 average rank) and free throw rate (134.075).

Boeheim was not surprised to hear this.

“We’ve had bad free throw shooting teams that went to the Final Four and won the national championship,” he said. “I never put a lot of stock in that. The difference between shooting 72 percent and 80 percent is 2 points, maybe. It’s not that much.”

Huggins and Pitino were not especially surprised, either, but they did offer possible explanations for generally weak free throw shooting teams reaching the Final Four, both related to well-timed efficiency.

“I would venture to say in the tournament they probably shot it well,” said Huggins.

Said Pitino: “Free throws come into play more at the end of the game.”"

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/what-it-takes-to-make-the-final-four/

Edited by HissingPrigs77 at 11:47:43 on 05/07/12
Report Message

Please explain why this message is being reported.

REPLY

Handle:
Password:
Subject:

MESSAGE THREAD

Statistical rankings among D1 teams - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 09:37:21
     ^That is very impressive stats for any season * - MizzouBuickFan MU - 5/7 17:46:21
     The thing about k-state and Martin is.... - alwaysright MU - 5/7 11:39:45
     It's too bad it came to an end the way it did. - high.nrg STL - 5/7 11:33:53
     Most significant of those stats: FT% and FG%. - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 10:59:02
          3 stats most correlated with winning are - HissingPrigs77 MU - 5/7 11:16:44
               Not only do I question that there are even any - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 11:46:58
               Agree in general, however for example - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 11:31:04
                    If a player passes out to an open perimeter guy who hits - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 11:49:03
                         Made basket as a result from a pass (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 12:03:27
                              Here is the actual NCAA definition - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 12:20:47
                                   It is clearly, and of necessity, extremely subjective. What - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 12:25:42
                              Then some of assist stats don't mean much, IMO. - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 12:20:40
                                   As an example, in 2006 51.1% of our baskets - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 12:29:31
                                        Or, it could indicate better shooters. - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 12:35:47
                    This is fetal alcohol syndrome-style reasoning - HissingPrigs77 MU - 5/7 11:35:59
                         Extremely odd response (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 12:05:19
          FT% is one of the most overrated stats - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 11:14:20
               You're arguing against something I never said; ie that - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 11:23:49
                    Let me come at that from a different angle then - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 11:57:51
                         Forget the rankings. I don't care. Just give me - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 11:59:43
                              Lost 2 games by 2 or less - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 12:02:54
                                   But how about the game with worst FT%? (nm) - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 12:27:18
                                        Not sure which ones those were without looking them up, but - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 12:31:13
                                             I meant which of the two lost games.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 12:32:42
                                                  RE: I meant which of the two lost games.(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 12:35:19
                                                       Now that I don't dispute. Which invariably brings us to - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 12:36:50
                                                            The stupidity of you two is almost too immense to - HissingPrigs77 MU - 5/7 14:16:06
                                                                 We wanted to give you a chance to enlighten us all and - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 14:23:23
                                                                      RE: We wanted to give you a chance to enlighten us all and - HissingPrigs77 MU - 5/7 14:38:07
                                                                           While appreciating the opportunity to review - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 14:54:04
                                                                                The point, GA Tiger - HissingPrigs77 MU - 5/7 15:01:11
                                                                                     Ok. I won't argue that the stats are meaningless.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 15:29:53
                    RE: You're arguing against something I never said; ie that - HissingPrigs77 MU - 5/7 11:47:27
                         Ok, that line of reasoning is as faulty as Fiji's was. - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 11:51:37
               FT% in the last 5 minutes of a game would be an interesting - catbirdseat KC - 5/7 11:15:45
                    Agree, and another thing that isn't captured in FT% is - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 11:22:00
                         RE: Agree, and another thing that isn't captured in FT% is - catbirdseat KC - 5/7 11:24:39
                              All of which supports my argument.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 5/7 11:42:40
     Good stuff. It's such a different and more cleaned up and - alayton21 MU - 5/7 10:52:36
          2008-09 - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 11:19:44
               if only this year's team had the 08-09 3pt fg defense - mrnix MU - 5/7 11:33:14
                    Or half the overall defense. (nm) - quinsnyderjr MU - 5/7 22:26:50
                    Very long, tall guards vs short undersized guards (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/7 11:58:59




©2013 Fanboards L.L.C. — Our Privacy Policy   About Tigerboard