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Obama and Dems want to preserve Medicare, Medicaid and SS - Gadfly MU - 4/29 16:10:28

wow, really, you win, i'm pullin the dem lever - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/29 23:56:33

the dollar has lost 83% of its value since 1973 - ashtray USA - 4/29 20:57:40

wow, I could buy a lot of stuff if we were in 1973. - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 23:07:34

if your wages inflate w/ the dollar - Gadfly MU - 4/29 22:37:19

wages don't increase at the same rate as inflation (nm) - ashtray USA - 4/30 06:43:52

some inflation is better than other inflation - Gadfly MU - 4/30 13:50:38

Didn't Obozo lower SS taxes by 2%? - Lerxst MU

- 4/29 20:13:33

Repeating the Lie of the Year doesn't make it true. - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 19:47:21

the dems will be the ones to wreck social security - kbit MU - 4/29 17:05:05

is this your illogic? - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:06:01

what does that mean? - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 17:24:34

It means THERE AIN'T ENOUGH MONEY. - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:14:27

so youre finally admitting - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 19:22:14

We misplace money EVERYWHERE. (nm) - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:43:15

gat... - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 19:46:38

I yell a lot. If I was - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:48:08

thats either really zen or really retarded. - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 19:56:27

I can compromise. Call it both.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 20:00:45

once again - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 20:06:31

How so ? - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 17:06:51

Sorry, sonny boy. That won't wash. - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 19:37:35

BS - lift the cap and it is fine - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 19:47:16

Irrelevant. Lifting the cap won't save it, as the link - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 19:52:12

Far left libs can not change their mind. I'm convinced of it - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 20:05:59

True dat! - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 20:45:29

Because, uh, they don't make enough money? - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:51:00

my purchasing power on ssi with BO is down about 25% - kbit MU - 4/29 18:06:11

RE: my purchasing power on ssi with BO is down about 25% - sarasotatiger MU - 4/29 19:12:11

Republicans are sworn to privatizing your SS and you can - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 18:31:14

nobody said the right was always right - kbit MU - 4/29 19:26:16

privitizing a portion of SS makes a ton of sense. - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 18:43:26

You want a federal investment plan - start one - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 19:05:04

you prefer a federal ponzi scheme to an investment plan? - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 19:06:55

I prefer the most successful federal social program in US - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 19:10:17

That's not saying much. - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 20:56:59

What you really mean is that if its privatized then - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:20:48

the soviets eliminated the right to private property - Gadfly MU - 4/29 22:44:15

I'm smart enough to know the point here is - GA Tiger MU - 4/30 06:59:02

that is not communism - Gadfly MU - 4/30 15:56:18

You're a fool - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 19:49:33

Since I have given to charity regularly - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:58:21

How bout when they print your money on an HP Laser Jet - Coors4bob MU - 4/29 19:18:28

do you trust wall street with social security? - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:51:53

do you turst city and state bonds? - Coors4bob MU - 4/29 19:20:06

those will never provide a safety net for most poor people - Gadfly MU - 4/29 19:34:07

what is the historical ROI for the SS fund vs the historical - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 18:54:56

are you using averages like a moran for roi? - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:57:01

no, I wanted to see some facts and data, instead.... - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 18:58:18

too bad you can't just make better arguments - Gadfly MU - 4/29 19:00:04

you ignore the bad arguments and usually log off if there's - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 19:02:22

we need a social safety net for the poor - Gadfly MU - 4/29 19:32:43

I agree, I don't want to take their SS away, I want to make - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 20:28:55

your averages will not do that - Gadfly MU - 4/29 22:38:55

so in sum, you have somehow convinced yourself: - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 18:13:09

i already said, young people will have to grow older before - kbit MU - 4/29 18:56:05

your anti-growth agenda is anti-youth - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:59:01

even if purely selfish.... - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 19:09:11

then we should increase benefits - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:07:10

that is exactly the debate that would go on 40 yrs ago - kbit MU - 4/29 18:49:54

that's not a good argument for eliminating it - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:53:04

I don't want to eliminate it, I want to make it better - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 19:01:33

the poor, disabled and uneducated need a safety net - Gadfly MU - 4/29 19:36:41

you can't read - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 20:33:49

your use of averages undermines your argument - Gadfly MU - 4/29 22:39:45

only for an idiot. what are the facts and data? - SoCalTigr UM - 4/30 01:55:18

the fact is that most old people live on social security - Gadfly MU - 4/30 02:22:10

Party of No, Party of No, Party of No, No, No - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 16:22:48

this kind of mindless chant is for the republicans. - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 17:26:48

I was pointing out the mindlessness - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 17:44:12

^^^Superb illustration of several words.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:10:02

you should do it with more degradation and insult - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 17:47:37

or just post a few arrows next to his name, like >>>>> - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 18:42:25

arrows are awesome...this guy ****er your mother!>>>>>>>>>>> - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 19:03:46

social security benefits should be - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 16:20:15

RE: social security benefits should be - scan MU - 4/29 16:30:01

^^ old man ^^ (nm) - MarcTiger MU - 4/29 16:39:16

hey! - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 17:27:58

ya mon - MarcTiger MU - 4/29 21:33:09

^^so Republican - Gadfly MU - 4/29 16:35:33

why do they have to be old? - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 16:32:47

RE: why do they have to be old? - scan MU - 4/29 16:35:40

so the ability to prostitute oneself - Gadfly MU - 4/29 16:39:36

I can never tell when you're being serious. (nm) - Lothar MU - 4/29 17:14:39

it's better that way - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:08:30

Never intended to be sole source of income - mu7176grad MU - 4/29 16:24:28

it's intended to keep people from starving to death - Gadfly MU - 4/29 16:33:19

The old people around here drive Lincolns - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 17:54:06

your personal anecdotes - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:09:25

Are you opposed to redistribution of fat government pensions - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 20:00:01

sure he does.... - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 18:14:24

you just killed about 120 IQ points - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 18:03:24

That explains you dumb-ass post. - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 19:56:35

i deal in reality... - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 16:25:39

Life's a ***** and then you die - mu7176grad MU - 4/29 16:28:41

is this some argument for eliminating social security - Gadfly MU - 4/29 16:37:15

potd. - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 17:43:02

this isnt a ****ing contest... - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 16:30:59

i think he's saying he's immune - Gadfly MU - 4/29 16:42:16

i dont give a f*ck if he was drafted, thats welfare - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 17:23:44

Since I have given to charity regularly

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