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I have never said FF was the only criteria for evaluating

Posted on: April 20, 2012 at 09:30:41 CT
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the best conference. I've repeatedly stated that you need multiple metrics, including, NCAA tourney performance, and that you have to look at how all teams in a conference perform. It's no secret that Kentucky is a top 5 program but their 8 titles doesn't necessarily mean the SEC is the best BB conference. It means ten teams ride their coattails when they've done little themselves.

And, it's not news that the Big12 massively underachieved in the NCAA tournament. While you can say that they have the same number of titles as the B10 in this defined time period, look at the # of Final Fours as well. It's not close. Look at NCAA winning %. It's not that close.

The Big 10 is a deeper league than the Big 12 and has had more NCAA success since the inception of the Big 12. I'm not sure that's debatable.

Edited by tjwheeler at 09:32:23 on 04/20/12
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Championships per Conference past 20 yrs.... - MizzouBuickFan MU - 4/19 22:32:30
     YOu probably meant reverse for bball and football for SEC(nm) - Grasslands MU - 4/20 13:20:36
     3 different teams with championships shows the - BadAsh SEC - 4/20 08:25:59
          Haha - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 08:56:36
               I thought you'd like that comment. lol - BadAsh SEC - 4/20 13:26:02
                    Everyone except me, of course. - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 15:08:00
          But none of the bottom 4 SEC teams have won a - FIJItiger MU - 4/20 08:38:17
               Clearly "depth of conference" is confusing. - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 08:53:51
                    Its not confusing - FIJItiger MU - 4/20 09:07:37
                         haha - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 09:11:54
                              Not true, but I'm certainly not going to simply adopt - FIJItiger MU - 4/20 09:27:12
                                   Clearly, this explains your initial sarcastic comment in - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 09:31:45
                                        RE: Clearly, this explains your initial sarcastic comment in - FIJItiger MU - 4/20 09:32:55
                                             I'll adopt this. - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 09:38:14
                                                  I don't know if anyone has ever pointed this out to you - FIJItiger MU - 4/20 09:43:50
                                                       nm - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 09:57:26
                                                            He's just taking after you. Ha Ha! nm - Uncle John MU - 4/20 10:09:21
                                                                 touche. ;) - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 10:18:01
     Not accurate. - tjwheeler UI - 4/19 23:02:43
          1996 Kentucky but that still leaves the SEC well - Mizzmi27 MU - 4/19 23:07:16
               Not the ACC-7 - tjwheeler UI - 4/19 23:18:23
                    I was talking combo of bball and fball. But even if you - Mizzmi27 MU - 4/19 23:21:08
                         I was just talking BB. - tjwheeler UI - 4/19 23:29:55
                              The big 12 is a 14 year league right? How many big10 - MIZtigerZOU MU - 4/20 08:18:39
                                   Tied at titles and not close at Final Fours. - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 08:52:38
                                        so final fours is the judge of who was the best - MIZtigerZOU MU - 4/20 09:21:36
                                             I have never said FF was the only criteria for evaluating - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 09:30:41
                                                  Do you know the cOference win percentages in the NCAA - MIZtigerZOU MU - 4/20 09:56:24
                                                       Hopefully someone else calculates that for us. - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 09:59:09
                                                            The article I found was just the last 4-5 years - MIZtigerZOU MU - 4/20 10:03:55
                                                                 Wow, the dude in the video picked Lehigh to beat Duke. - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 10:23:23
                                                                      I found a link with each teams all time record so it - MIZtigerZOU MU - 4/20 10:36:45
                                                                           excuses, excuses - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 10:38:54
          Is that accurate?(nm) - BlackFlagTiger MU - 4/19 23:06:00
               ^^^BIG12 and SEC still rank ahead of big10 in championships. - MizzouBuickFan MU - 4/20 00:37:35
                    No, they don't. - tjwheeler UI - 4/20 08:54:39




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