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Posted on: April 4, 2012 at 17:50:57 CT
KCRvrRnnr KU
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As our respective teams are now going their separate ways (topic for other threads), my thoughts have turned to what constitutes a genuine rivalry. If ours is over (hopefully just paused), both KU and MU are seeking a new one.

So what DOES make a rivalry? These are my thoughts.

1) A rivalry must be mutually agreed upon. A team cannot just pick a name out of a hat and declare another team a "rival" unless the other team feels the same way.

2) A rivalry must be based on something. It could be in-state supremacy (UK-Louisville in basketball). It could be historical events (as KU/MU has been). It could be repeated competition to achieve the same goal (usually within conference, but there are exceptions, a la Notre Dame/USC on a national scale in football).

3) To sustain a rivalry, both teams must be consistently competitive. A one-sided rivalry is not a rivalry (a la KU-KSU basketball when we won in Manhattan for 25 straight years).

4) Following up on 3), games played between rivals must MEAN something. Only then can a victory take something AWAY from a rival. Most often it is conference based, but it can also be played on a larger scale.

5) Finally, to be a true rivalry means that *GASP!* sometimes you LOSE to your rival. That makes the rivalry more meaningful.

I welcome thoughts on this subject. I do not know where KU will be going in terms of finding a rival..KSU is the obvious choice but it has been too one-sided in basketball (favoring KU) and football (favoring KSU) of late to meet the above requirements. Where do Tiger fans feel their next genuine rival will come from?
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RIVALRY - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 17:50:57
     Hasn't kU asked Daddy DeLoss yet who can be your rival? - LawTiger30 MU - 4/5 14:24:44
     Well, cowards don't make good rivals, so SECCCCCC ya! nm - Kilgore KC - 4/5 10:11:58
     Arkansas - Merlin MU - 4/5 09:20:41
     Roll tide (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/5 09:17:26
     BOOM, gone (nm) - Mizzousaphone KC - 4/5 07:38:50
     SSHHUUTT TTHHEE FFFFF UUPP - STL1DFW MU - 4/5 00:50:45
          I got this... - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/5 09:19:57
               Excellent Post! (nm) - thebrave MU - 4/5 10:21:58
     Who cares? That's history and our future doesn't include kU - MajorLeagueMissouri MU - 4/4 22:36:36
     Arkansas will replace you just fine - XRob MU - 4/4 21:54:48
          Arkansas already replaced you...DGB thing pi$$ed me off, - Tigergrad MU - 4/5 09:18:10
          RE: Arkansas will replace you just fine - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 22:21:15
               No they can't be your rival, different conferences(nm) - high.nrg STL - 4/5 13:23:52
               Play them every year - XRob MU - 4/5 01:02:51
               But, I thought non-con rivals don't work? - AllThingsKC SEC - 4/5 00:32:50
               And yet, they aren't rivals....nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/4 23:31:30
     this will always be the #1 rivalry for each school for - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/4 21:47:16
          Is it a rivalry if we don't play?(nm) - BadAsh SEC - 4/4 22:16:34
               If the schools don't play due to one's butthurt, then - Blood Green MU - 4/4 23:04:50
               do you want my opinion or an official ruling?(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/4 22:27:22
     RE: RIVALRY - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 19:01:42
          shut your face beaker(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 4/4 20:49:05
               RE: shut your face beaker(nm) - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 20:55:21
                    You opened the door for that one - Bobk MU - 4/5 00:52:23
          RE: RIVALRY - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/4 20:24:52
          What do you find more offensive: - BadAsh SEC - 4/4 19:44:39
               RE: What do you find more offensive: - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 20:33:08
               I think until they agree to play us again "cowards" is - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 19:50:58
                    RE: I think until they agree to play us again "cowards" is - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 20:34:50
                    Despise the beakers but ... - DHighlander MU - 4/4 20:00:14
                         this is simply not true - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 20:45:45
                              RE: this is simply not true - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 20:58:21
                         RE: Despise the beakers but ... - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 20:40:27
                              I can see why a ku fan would think that. - BadAsh SEC - 4/4 22:13:48
                              The games at Arrowhead rekindled the intensity. - BB63 MU - 4/4 21:01:18
                                   RE: The games at Arrowhead rekindled the intensity. - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 21:04:51
                                        I agree that the first two games at Arrowhead were great for - BB63 MU - 4/4 21:20:10
                         I see no reason to play them in basketball if they - BadAsh SEC - 4/4 20:08:25
                              RE: I see no reason to play them in basketball if they - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 22:28:16
                                   Luckily for MU, being in the SEC, money isn't going - BadAsh SEC - 4/5 08:43:32
                    I'd rather not call them anything, in hopes that they'll - BadAsh SEC - 4/4 19:55:41
          I agree - MarineinMO MU - 4/4 19:04:41
     RE: RIVALRY - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 18:51:02
          RE: RIVALRY - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 18:53:37
               The only really distant rivalry is ND-USC in football..... - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/4 23:38:51
               it would be more profitable to just keep the - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 18:56:26
                    RE: it would be more profitable to just keep the - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 18:58:06
                         As long as Missouri borders kansas, it will still matter - MarineinMO MU - 4/4 19:02:03
                              RE: As long as Missouri borders kansas, it will still matter - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 19:04:50
                         it will be different but it will work just fine - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 18:59:50
                              RE: it will be different but it will work just fine - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 19:03:07
                                   I really hope you are wrong.(nm) - BadAsh SEC - 4/4 19:41:26
     We don't care...you forgot to add caring(nm) - jp4Mizzou MU - 4/4 18:50:32
          RE: We don't care...you forgot to add caring(nm) - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 18:55:47
     RE: RIVALRY - MarineinMO MU - 4/4 18:41:22
          RE: RIVALRY - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 18:47:50
               HaHa, when I saw your post now, I went back and looked and - MarineinMO MU - 4/4 18:49:00
                    RE: HaHa, when I saw your post now, I went back and looked and - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 18:50:13
                         So what about common opponent games? - MarineinMO MU - 4/4 18:52:19
                              RE: So what about common opponent games? - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 18:54:58
          One shouldnt have to look up so called "rules" to identify - MarineinMO MU - 4/4 18:45:23
               RE: One shouldnt have to look up so called "rules" to identify - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 18:48:43
          RE: RIVALRY - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 18:44:33
     When losing to said rival is worse than beating said rival(nm) - Mark of the Tiger MU - 4/4 18:14:07
          RE: When losing to said rival is worse than beating said rival(nm) - ChristianMingle KU - 4/4 19:31:39
          I like that, never thought about it, but very true. - MarineinMO MU - 4/4 18:47:35
     Regarding #1, we dont want to be your rival... - kctgrs KC - 4/4 18:04:13
          RE: Regarding #1, we dont want to be your rival... - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 18:37:44
     MU will continue to be Illinois rival in basketball. - BadAsh SEC - 4/4 18:03:04
          RE: MU will continue to be Illinois rival in basketball. - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 18:43:06
               I never thought much of the ND/USC rivarly. It always - BadAsh SEC - 4/4 19:35:25
                    RE: I never thought much of the ND/USC rivarly. It always - KCRvrRnnr KU - 4/4 20:37:54




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