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Posted on: April 4, 2012 at 12:47:47 CT
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Wisconsin
Indiana
Purdue
Michigan
Minnesota (I've seen them ranked in most preseason polls so far, Tubby Smith is their coach and they have a lot coming back)

Usually in the top 25 and full of 4 star athletes but struggling:

Illinois

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SEC basketball standings - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/4 11:48:57
     RE: SEC basketball standings - Ragarm MU - 4/4 13:11:44
     Auburn Making Strides - Aubie AU - 4/4 12:47:15
          Good. The SEC needs Auburn, SC, and Georgia to step it up - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 12:52:52
               With SC adding Coach Martin and our incoming class - Aubie AU - 4/4 13:07:57
               ACC and Big East, Andy - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:58:22
                    Look at the depth of the conferences - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 13:09:27
                         cut that to top 30 teams and it paints a different picture. - phrejd KC - 4/4 13:44:58
                         KY and Florida in the past 6 years. Only MSU and ONLY ku - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 13:29:22
     vandy, UT, and bama disagree. SEC top 5 vs. - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:31:16
          Finally, some sense. The bottom of Iowa, Ill, NW, Minn, - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:32:53
               I'm sorry, but this just isn't true - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 12:51:34
                    You really think Minn, NW, Penn State, and the Nubs are - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 13:08:42
                         Still waiting for you to use any facts here. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 13:15:26
                              actually, this was a comparison of the top of the SEC vs. - phrejd KC - 4/4 13:40:13
                                   No, that's not a fact. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 13:57:02
                    my point is i don't think that matters. bottom half teams - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:57:25
               Maybe if you repeat it, it'll be true. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:35:19
                    Thank you Tom Izzo - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:37:50
                         It's your choice to be ignorant. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:42:32
                              why not "Final 8's" or "Final 16's" or Final 32's? - FF's - 90Tiger MU - 4/4 13:28:40
                                   Because everyone else in the college BB world - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 14:00:19
                              Here we go with the Natl Semi-Final appearances list - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:51:09
                                   You implied it was only due to Izzo. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:53:08
                                        No, you didn't. Izzo has salvaged the basketball pride in - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 13:07:59
                                             "modern era" - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 13:09:36
                              so now it's total final 4s over the past 16 years? - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:47:28
                                   Are you confused about the start of the B12? - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:48:26
                                        since b12 didn't appear in the tourney until '97 - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:55:02
                                             yes, the '96-'97 season. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:56:41
                                                  so final 4s since 97? that's the criteria? (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/4 13:00:20
                    nobody is saying those are good teams. they are horrible. - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:37:44
                         Care to look at actual facts or just DD's meanderings? - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:38:50
                              Or, tell us how NW, Penn St., Minn, and Nubs are even - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:42:25
                                   Gillespie is at Texas Tech. nm - Uncle John MU - 4/4 12:43:57
                                        Don't confuse him with facts. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:44:24
                                   This is your use of logic? - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:43:47
                              don't know what DD's meanderings are. but if you have facts - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:41:40
               ugh. now throw in ou, ttech, tcu. that's some bad bball. (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:35:07
     Vanderbilt had 25 wins, won the SEC tournament, and - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 12:16:36
          they're a C+ basketball program and that's just - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/4 12:23:16
               true, but they average 14k fans per game and they - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 12:28:19
          I expect Cuonzo to be very successful in Knoxville(nm) - Eggs MU - 4/4 12:22:22
          Vandy loses everyone off of that team. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:20:14
               And Illinois loses Leonard. New guy better get it going or - Uncle John MU - 4/4 12:46:05
                    Nonsense. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:49:35
                         That is never going to happen. Mizzou will dominate for a - Uncle John MU - 4/4 13:01:15
                              Of course. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 13:08:33
               UT struggled at the start of the year but they finished - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 12:26:57
                    anderson's teams will be good. maybe not top 10 good, but - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:32:39
                         In the end, they will be like his last 2 teams at MU - Eggs MU - 4/4 12:37:54
                              hope we fare well at their place. f'ville hasn't been kind - phrejd KC - 4/4 13:06:17
                    5 NCAA appearances in 12 years - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:32:21
                         seems like they have a lot of fan support, solid recruiting - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 12:49:39
                         so ncaa tourney performance is your only criteria? (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:33:37
                              Never said it was the only criteria. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:34:06
                                   just the only criteria you choose to use? (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:36:18
                                        I didn't realize we were only allowed 1 post on the topic. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:37:24
                                             carry on. (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:39:51
                                                  Thanks. I will. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:44:44
          Don't forget USC and Psycho Frank. Of course these aren't - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:18:51
               the SEC breaks down into 4 tiers - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 12:25:11
                    ACC will be very solid, for sure. B10? Let's tier that, - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:31:37
                         more like - AndyTiger MU - 4/4 12:47:47
     A&M does not necessarily make them credible. - alwaysright MU - 4/4 12:13:27
          I'm throwing A&M in there because the rest of the conference - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/4 12:14:28
     I wish Illinois would join the SEC - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:12:43
          ill would be a coup...Chicago TV market for SEC would be - catbirdseat MU - 4/4 12:22:37
               And, history suggests that Illinois would - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:24:27
          Norfolk State would dominate the SEC. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:15:20
               They made the tournament and would probably - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:16:21
                    yawn - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:19:22
                         Since Illinois is the kU of the B10, sans titles, I find it - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:26:09
                              Kansas is the only Big 12 historical member school to have - FIJItiger MU - 4/4 12:28:12
                                   Wow. For Illiannoying, that's not money well spent - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:35:54
                                   oh lord, here we go again. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:33:47
                                        That equates to 2 total NCAA probations - FIJItiger MU - 4/4 12:38:23
                                             And, this was entirely related to the topic of the thread. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:45:39
                              Yes, bringing up FB is deflecting the topic. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:28:10
                                   How so? We own Illinois in both sports and have as many - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:34:34
                                        20-11 - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:36:11
                                             How's the rivalry and overall success been recently? - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:39:02
                                                  Well, since you ignored the post below. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:46:52
                                                       And, if you'd like to look at the last 20 years, let me know - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:54:13
                         inappropriate use of 'yawn' (nm) - TigerwTLP STL - 4/4 12:20:54
          lol (nm) - Sal KC - 4/4 12:13:28
     our preseason tourney will help the noncon - kmawv8 KC - 4/4 12:08:26
     noncon was fine if you remove the 4 sub 300 teams - Bucknell Bison MU - 4/4 11:53:38
     Next year is a golden opportunity for MU. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 11:52:48
          Florida will lose Beal. nm - Uncle John MU - 4/4 12:51:05
          if Bowers returns healthy, we're much more than - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/4 11:54:02
               originally - Hittman MU - 4/4 12:16:19
                    had kU won the title he would've gloated a few more days - TigerwTLP STL - 4/4 12:28:17
                         you seem obsessed with my opinions(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/4 12:34:44
                              only since you switched teams (nm) - TigerwTLP STL - 4/4 12:36:14
                                   that accusation hurts, guy on internet(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/4 12:54:35
                    typical stalker(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/4 12:19:30
                         the sage has spoken - Hittman MU - 4/4 12:21:55
                    Methinks Iam was: a) stirring up shyte - Diamond Dave MU - 4/4 12:17:35




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