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Posted on: April 4, 2012 at 12:46:52 CT

tjwheeler UI

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Overall Series: UI 20-11
Conference Titles: UI-17 MU-15
Conference Titles since 1996: UI-5 MU-0
NCAA Appearances: UI-29 MU-25
Sweet 16's: UI-11 MU-6
Elite 8's: UI-9 MU-4
Final Fours: UI-5 MU-0
Title Games: UI-1 MU-0

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SEC basketball standings - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 4/4 11:48:57

RE: SEC basketball standings - Ragarm MU - 4/4 13:11:44

Auburn Making Strides - Aubie AU - 4/4 12:47:15

Good. The SEC needs Auburn, SC, and Georgia to step it up - AndyTiger MU

- 4/4 12:52:52

With SC adding Coach Martin and our incoming class - Aubie AU - 4/4 13:07:57

ACC and Big East, Andy - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:58:22

Look at the depth of the conferences - AndyTiger MU

- 4/4 13:09:27

cut that to top 30 teams and it paints a different picture. - phrejd KC - 4/4 13:44:58

KY and Florida in the past 6 years. Only MSU and ONLY ku - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 13:29:22

vandy, UT, and bama disagree. SEC top 5 vs. - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:31:16

Finally, some sense. The bottom of Iowa, Ill, NW, Minn, - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:32:53

I'm sorry, but this just isn't true - AndyTiger MU

- 4/4 12:51:34

You really think Minn, NW, Penn State, and the Nubs are - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 13:08:42

Still waiting for you to use any facts here. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 13:15:26

actually, this was a comparison of the top of the SEC vs. - phrejd KC - 4/4 13:40:13

No, that's not a fact. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 13:57:02

my point is i don't think that matters. bottom half teams - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:57:25

Maybe if you repeat it, it'll be true. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:35:19

Thank you Tom Izzo - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:37:50

It's your choice to be ignorant. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:42:32

why not "Final 8's" or "Final 16's" or Final 32's? - FF's - 90Tiger MU - 4/4 13:28:40

Because everyone else in the college BB world - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 14:00:19

Here we go with the Natl Semi-Final appearances list - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:51:09

You implied it was only due to Izzo. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:53:08

No, you didn't. Izzo has salvaged the basketball pride in - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 13:07:59

"modern era" - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 13:09:36

so now it's total final 4s over the past 16 years? - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:47:28

Are you confused about the start of the B12? - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:48:26

since b12 didn't appear in the tourney until '97 - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:55:02

yes, the '96-'97 season. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:56:41

so final 4s since 97? that's the criteria? (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/4 13:00:20

nobody is saying those are good teams. they are horrible. - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:37:44

Care to look at actual facts or just DD's meanderings? - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:38:50

Or, tell us how NW, Penn St., Minn, and Nubs are even - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:42:25

Gillespie is at Texas Tech. nm - Uncle John MU - 4/4 12:43:57

Don't confuse him with facts. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:44:24

This is your use of logic? - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:43:47

don't know what DD's meanderings are. but if you have facts - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:41:40

ugh. now throw in ou, ttech, tcu. that's some bad bball. (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:35:07

Vanderbilt had 25 wins, won the SEC tournament, and - AndyTiger MU

- 4/4 12:16:36

they're a C+ basketball program and that's just - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 4/4 12:23:16

true, but they average 14k fans per game and they - AndyTiger MU

- 4/4 12:28:19

I expect Cuonzo to be very successful in Knoxville(nm) - Eggs MU - 4/4 12:22:22

Vandy loses everyone off of that team. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:20:14

And Illinois loses Leonard. New guy better get it going or - Uncle John MU - 4/4 12:46:05

Nonsense. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:49:35

That is never going to happen. Mizzou will dominate for a - Uncle John MU - 4/4 13:01:15

Of course. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 13:08:33

UT struggled at the start of the year but they finished - AndyTiger MU

- 4/4 12:26:57

anderson's teams will be good. maybe not top 10 good, but - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:32:39

In the end, they will be like his last 2 teams at MU - Eggs MU - 4/4 12:37:54

hope we fare well at their place. f'ville hasn't been kind - phrejd KC - 4/4 13:06:17

5 NCAA appearances in 12 years - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:32:21

seems like they have a lot of fan support, solid recruiting - AndyTiger MU

- 4/4 12:49:39

so ncaa tourney performance is your only criteria? (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:33:37

Never said it was the only criteria. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:34:06

just the only criteria you choose to use? (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:36:18

I didn't realize we were only allowed 1 post on the topic. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:37:24

carry on. (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/4 12:39:51

Thanks. I will. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:44:44

Don't forget USC and Psycho Frank. Of course these aren't - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:18:51

the SEC breaks down into 4 tiers - AndyTiger MU

- 4/4 12:25:11

ACC will be very solid, for sure. B10? Let's tier that, - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:31:37

more like - AndyTiger MU

- 4/4 12:47:47

A&M does not necessarily make them credible. - alwaysright MU - 4/4 12:13:27

I'm throwing A&M in there because the rest of the conference - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 4/4 12:14:28

I wish Illinois would join the SEC - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:12:43

ill would be a coup...Chicago TV market for SEC would be - catbirdseat MU - 4/4 12:22:37

And, history suggests that Illinois would - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:24:27

Norfolk State would dominate the SEC. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:15:20

They made the tournament and would probably - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:16:21

yawn - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:19:22

Since Illinois is the kU of the B10, sans titles, I find it - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:26:09

Kansas is the only Big 12 historical member school to have - FIJItiger MU

- 4/4 12:28:12

Wow. For Illiannoying, that's not money well spent - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:35:54

oh lord, here we go again. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:33:47

That equates to 2 total NCAA probations - FIJItiger MU

- 4/4 12:38:23

And, this was entirely related to the topic of the thread. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:45:39

Yes, bringing up FB is deflecting the topic. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:28:10

How so? We own Illinois in both sports and have as many - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:34:34

20-11 - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:36:11

How's the rivalry and overall success been recently? - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:39:02

Well, since you ignored the post below. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:46:52

And, if you'd like to look at the last 20 years, let me know - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 12:54:13

inappropriate use of 'yawn' (nm) - TigerwTLP STL - 4/4 12:20:54

lol (nm) - Sal KC - 4/4 12:13:28

our preseason tourney will help the noncon - kmawv8 KC - 4/4 12:08:26

noncon was fine if you remove the 4 sub 300 teams - Bucknell Bison MU

- 4/4 11:53:38

Next year is a golden opportunity for MU. - tjwheeler UI - 4/4 11:52:48

Florida will lose Beal. nm - Uncle John MU - 4/4 12:51:05

if Bowers returns healthy, we're much more than - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 4/4 11:54:02

originally - Hittman MU - 4/4 12:16:19

had kU won the title he would've gloated a few more days - TigerwTLP STL - 4/4 12:28:17

you seem obsessed with my opinions(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 4/4 12:34:44

only since you switched teams (nm) - TigerwTLP STL - 4/4 12:36:14

that accusation hurts, guy on internet(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 4/4 12:54:35

typical stalker(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 4/4 12:19:30

the sage has spoken - Hittman MU - 4/4 12:21:55

Methinks Iam was: a) stirring up shyte - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/4 12:17:35