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Scores in schools are directly tied to the economics of the

Posted on: February 29, 2012 at 20:30:31 CT
catbirdseat MU
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population in that school. That is a fact.

Kids in poor areas may come to school with no breakfast...

Kids in richer districts get to go by Mcdonalds on the way to school.

Get the drift when that happens in every area..

athletic budgets..
books...
technology...
ability of parents to take time off to be involved...
facilities..
teacher salaries..

free and reduced lunch percentage almost directly match academic performance.

Private schools do not have to take behaviorial issues, special needs students, students from single parent families, students from low income areas. They get to pick and choose who they want on their team...

Public schools don't get that option.
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has anyone seen this? Coolest thing ever - CraigS MU - 2/29 17:43:36
     Yeah, sorta cool, but old news... I'll PH this with a better - thedad MU - 3/1 05:02:18
     A friend is building me a 3-d printer - BostonTiger JC - 2/29 21:23:33
     badass(nm) - BlackFlagTiger MU - 2/29 18:09:54
     That is insane.(nm) - tigerfan85tk MU - 2/29 17:54:34
     a high school in my area has one for drafting classes - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/29 17:50:15
          what a huge waste - CraigS MU - 2/29 17:53:30
               yeah, they could've hired another teacher for that - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/29 17:54:37
                    Documentary about how f-ed up the unions for teachers are - CraigS MU - 2/29 18:19:08
                         yeah, they need to get rid of tenure for teachers - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/29 18:20:46
                              Reason for tenure...please educate yourself and others. - catbirdseat MU - 2/29 19:08:40
                                   I'm not attacking the profession - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/29 19:13:15
                                   Tenure was created for COLLEGE professors - CraigS MU - 2/29 19:13:06
                                        tenure track professors get tenure almost automatically - TheShoe JC - 2/29 19:25:06
                                        No...Teachers in my school district are "offered" tenure - catbirdseat MU - 2/29 19:24:51
                                             Again, I'm not bashing good teachers - CraigS MU - 2/29 19:30:50
                                                  Tenure is written into the contract, and so is a due process - catbirdseat MU - 2/29 19:39:46
                                                       Comparing colleges such as stanford brown to magnet schools - CraigS MU - 2/29 19:46:15
                                                            Doesn't matter..once you transfer the money to corporations - catbirdseat MU - 2/29 19:57:03
                                                                 Think about the fun teachers have teaching creationsim - CraigS MU - 2/29 20:01:20
                              wow, myths and bull**** abound - TheShoe JC - 2/29 18:30:16
                                   they key work here is "objective" - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/29 18:38:24
                                        RE: they key work here is "objective" - catbirdseat MU - 2/29 19:27:38
                                        and you base this opinion on what? - TheShoe JC - 2/29 18:44:56
                                             like you - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/29 18:49:18
                                                  Tenue does not protect teacher jobs. That is a myth... - catbirdseat MU - 2/29 19:38:07
                                                       then what does tenure do? - SoCalTigr UM - 2/29 19:52:09
                                                            It forces school districts to go through a formal - catbirdseat MU - 2/29 20:14:39
                                                            not much really - TheShoe JC - 2/29 19:57:12
                                                  fair enough(nm) - TheShoe JC - 2/29 18:50:39
                                                       don't you agree it takes an administrator with some balls - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/29 18:53:22
                                                            there are several ways to handle that - TheShoe JC - 2/29 18:57:35
                                                                 as an administrator how many teachers has your school fired - CraigS MU - 2/29 19:03:07
                                                                      Why would this be a problem for teachers? If administrators - catbirdseat MU - 2/29 19:17:59
                                                                           The argument has come a long way from the main point - CraigS MU - 2/29 19:28:35
                                                                                There is a clause in every contract allowing for removal of - catbirdseat MU - 2/29 19:46:30
                                                                                     And who steps in - CraigS MU - 2/29 19:50:05
                                                                                          Who negotiates and signs contracts - catbirdseat MU - 2/29 20:22:40
                                                                                dude - TheShoe JC - 2/29 19:31:32
                                                                                     reduction in force not FIRED for performance - CraigS MU - 2/29 19:34:51
                                                                                          no state publishes termination stats based on performance - TheShoe JC - 2/29 19:42:10
                                                                                               Waiting for Superman points it out but the NY times and - CraigS MU - 2/29 19:48:46
                                                                                                    ah, so again the movie must be true - TheShoe JC - 2/29 19:52:20
                                                                                                         I love how you skip right over the fact that the NY times - CraigS MU - 2/29 19:56:50
                                                                                                              it doesn't really bring much authority or credibility - TheShoe JC - 2/29 19:58:55
                                                                                                                   I do. Contrary to what you might think - CraigS MU - 2/29 20:03:51
                                                                                                                        you gonna share?(nm) - TheShoe JC - 2/29 20:04:38
                                                                      I don't work in secondary ed anymore - TheShoe JC - 2/29 19:05:47
                                                                           So what you are saying is they don't... But tenure doesn't - CraigS MU - 2/29 19:09:56
                                                                                that was really a comment about non-tenured teachers - TheShoe JC - 2/29 19:11:28
                                                                                     Look, I'm not out to fire all teachers or disrespect - CraigS MU - 2/29 19:16:50
                                                                                          Scores in schools are directly tied to the economics of the - catbirdseat MU - 2/29 20:30:31
                                                                                          Generalization??? - CraigS MU - 2/29 19:32:57
                                                                                          these are all very nice talking points - TheShoe JC - 2/29 19:29:18
                                                                 agree - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/29 19:02:01
                                   That is 100% incorrect. Watch the movie Waiting for Superma - CraigS MU - 2/29 18:34:04
                                        yeah, let's not get carried away and thinking everything is - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/29 18:40:04
                                        so you're basing your entire knowledge base on a movie? - TheShoe JC - 2/29 18:36:18
                                             My brother is an admin and sis a history teacher and we - CraigS MU - 2/29 18:40:33
                                                  lol - TheShoe JC - 2/29 18:46:20
                                             and I will add - TheShoe JC - 2/29 18:40:14
                              My math teacher, Mrs Curtis (woman was evil) in high school - CraigS MU - 2/29 18:23:37
                                   was she hot? - JG MU - 2/29 18:56:19
                                        she was probably 70. If you are into that sorta thing - CraigS MU - 2/29 18:57:28
                                   she said, "you're a retard, you'll be a trash man when you - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/29 18:25:00
                                        Nope. Lafayette High School Wildwood in 99. Funny thing - CraigS MU - 2/29 18:29:27
     PBS's "This Old House" did a remake of an ol colonial - jp4Mizzou MU - 2/29 17:45:21
          I almost bought that house in 2007 - BostonTiger JC - 2/29 21:43:52
          I'm thinking I should figure out who makes these and buy - CraigS MU - 2/29 17:47:38




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